Brexit

Quoted from mariner91

Regardless of how you dress it up it is not the will of the people when nowhere near 50% of the population want a no deal brexit. Only take in to account people who vote, do whatever you want with your skewed stats but if you think the majority of the people in the United Kingdom want a no deal brexit then you've got shit for brains.

You do tend to get carry away with your arguments 91,

I hope you are more calm when extracting teeth.

The majority of people in this country do not understand the real complexity of brexit. They cannot or will not see the advantages and disadvantages of staying in the EU or leaving it as they have finished opinions and received ideas and political preferences and prejudices.

The referendum, which was  ‘advisory’ and not ‘binding’ ( if it had been binding the result would be void as the brexit campaign was judged to be unlawful and financially irregular) did not give people a chance to form informed opinions as it was stuffed with lies, misinformation, scaremongering etc on both sides. The vote is therefore meaningless. The so called ‘will of the people’ is a little over half - not really a majority in referendum terms and we know that the question itself was flawed and the supporting information false. The will of half of the people is hollow and the the other half are apparently of no consequence and to be ignored.  

Since then, some people have been able to reflect, research, take stock, gather better information on likely outcomes for and against and you know what......it’s still impossible to decide!

What’s clear, is that you can’t have a brexit that people who believe in brexit, say isn’t a proper brexit. That kills a compromise deal (or more properly, a withdrawal agreement), like May’s or any other. Anyone who thinks that Johnson can negotiate a ‘hard brexit’ deal with the EU is an utter fool, and politicians that try to kid people on that it can be done are contemptuous and half the reason why we’re in this mess.

What would I do then? - I’d cancel brexit having realised it can’t be delivered or agreed upon, and, more importantly, won’t address any of the real problems this country faces, only make them worse  - environment, geopolitical tensions, manufacturing, jobs, housing, crime, poverty, underinvestment in  public services, benefits, health etc and I’d set out a programme of government like the post-war ‘contract with the people’ to reunite British people and restore our national infrastructure, communities, health, wealth and happiness.

Beer anyone...?  

The referendum, which was  ‘advisory’ and not ‘binding  

Begone remoaner, not legally binding but promised outcome to be honoured.

Official Yellowhammer docs - https://assets.publishing.serv....._assumptions_CDL.pdf

Sounds just like what Farage and Johnson promised

“Her Majesty’s government will act lawfully and in accordance with the rule of law”.

Quoted from Marinerz93

The referendum, which was  ‘advisory’ and not ‘binding  

Begone remoaner, not legally binding but promised outcome to be honoured.

Politicians pledged to honour it.  More fool them. It was an advisory referendum and that’s a fact.

Another aspect of this whole sorry mess, which really pisses me off is the disaster capitalists funding Boris Johnson - https://bylinetimes.com/2019/0.....nsons-leave-backers/

The Times also running something about 2000 job losses nationally due to two refineries shutting and becoming fuel terminals after the bottom of British fuel falls out. I wonder where there are two refineries with infrastructure in place to become fuel terminals?

Edit: just seen this is from a few weeks back.

Quoted from Marinerz93

The referendum, which was  ‘advisory’ and not ‘binding  

Begone remoaner, not legally binding but promised outcome to be honoured.

Clown

Quoted from Marinerz93

The referendum, which was  ‘advisory’ and not ‘binding  

Begone remoaner, not legally binding but promised outcome to be honoured.

Have you read Yellowhammer?