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LH
October 18, 2019, 8:47pm

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I voted Brexit to spite the way things are being run in this country by the Gov+Eu, that seemed to have worked because issues I care about like controlling our own immigration is finally being dealt with.

The thing is Boris is actually electable whereas Jeremy isn't, maybe in Iran he is.


Controlling immigration? According to Look North tonight 85% of migrants in Lincolnshire will become illegal immigrants overnight on 31/10 as it stands as they haven’t applied for settled status.
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October 18, 2019, 9:10pm
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Yeah Johnson, Farage and Rees Mogg just want to look after us regular folk and our day to day lives and concerns. All they're bothered about, people like that. Definitely won't be looking to inflate their hedge funds by crashing the pound or creating a free market economy where they can treat workers like excrement on their shoes. Not a chance.
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Quoted from hheh2
I voted Brexit to spite the way things are being run in this country by the Gov+Eu, that seemed to have worked because issues I care about like controlling our own immigration is finally being dealt with.

The thing is Boris is actually electable whereas Jeremy isn't, maybe in Iran he is.


Controlling immigration? The country gets as much control over immigration from the EU as it currently has. Yes free movement to the UK has ended but it hasn't to the Republic of Ireland. All EU citizens have to do is jump on a plane to Dublin, travel for an hour on a bus and they are in the UK. Once there they won't be declaring themselves to the authorities and won't be paying tax. We won't have a clue who is the country without immigration checks at the Northern Ireland boarder. At least currently everybody goes through passport control.
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October 19, 2019, 8:40pm

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I see serial winner Boris Johnson did it again today and has the cheek to blame the HoC for delaying Brexit (despite picking his ball up and sending all his mates home).
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October 20, 2019, 12:55pm
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It's funny how the remoaners deride Johnson on everything he does, yet in every opinion poll in every category, even the under 24's, he is infinately more popular / trustworthy than Corbyn....lets have a General Election and confine this rotten opposition to the dustbin once and for all...what are all you left wingers afraid of, bring it on!
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October 20, 2019, 2:06pm
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It's funny how the remoaners deride Johnson on everything he does, yet in every opinion poll in every category, even the under 24's, he is infinately more popular / trustworthy than Corbyn....lets have a General Election and confine this rotten opposition to the dustbin once and for all...what are all you left wingers afraid of, bring it on!


You assume a lot by suggesting that ALL remainers (get the spelling right) are left wingers. I was in London yesterday, and the protesters are from all political backgrounds, and some, like myself, have no particular alliance. One thing that did stand out as that EVERY speaker, from all parties, gave the rally "facts" not slogans. I too don't want Jeremy Corbyn as prime minister, but I don't want any of those sneering, snarling, lying Tories either. Kier Starmer would be the stand out candidate for PM for me, not only because he is anti Brexit, but because he recognises the threat to our NHS, Trading Agreements and most of all, that the Tories just want to deliver on their promise to Trump to crash the UK economy, and deliver us to the USA as the 51st state.

The problem here is that consecutive Conservative government's have lied about the facts. This because, they don't actually have any facts. All they can bleat is "will of the people", a term coined by the Right Wing politiciaians in power and presented to the "Leave" group to use to drive that Right wing movement. This is a tactic used by Adolf Hitler, to stir up the masses against the minorities in their communities.

Maybe the Tories too, want to give Remainers little yellow stars on blue backgrounds, so that they can be rounded up and got rid of.

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October 20, 2019, 2:55pm
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Remoaners is the correct terminology!....people who won't accept the result of the referendum result.Attaching themeselves to the so called 'People Vote' has killed their chances of ever getting a majority at the next General Election, so I wouldn't worry about Keir Starmer being the next PM!
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If you're for democracy, you must surely be for a second referendum on whatever final deal is agreed. After all, a couple of million people who weren't allowed to vote in 2016 are now of voting age and the outcome, whichever way it goes, will affect them. On the other hand, the best part of 2 million voters from 2016 are now dead so nothing can affect them any longer.

In comparison, in a general election, the electorate get an immediate outcome from their vote. Pretty ridiculous that some consider the votes of the deceased sacrosanct but the votes of the young irrelevant.
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If you're for democracy, you must surely be for a second referendum on whatever final deal is agreed. After all, a couple of million people who weren't allowed to vote in 2016 are now of voting age and the outcome, whichever way it goes, will affect them. On the other hand, the best part of 2 million voters from 2016 are now dead so nothing can affect them any longer.

In comparison, in a general election, the electorate get an immediate outcome from their vote. Pretty ridiculous that some consider the votes of the deceased sacrosanct but the votes of the young irrelevant.


Its only the remainers who want another vote , your argument can be said for any general election.

A labour candidate wins by one vote so the cons LD and other voters are all losers  and not thought about again.

During the term of the said MPs reign people who could not vote become old enough and others sadly die.

BUT

Can they demand another vote after say 3 years ? No they can not they have to lump like you remainers have to.

Boris will get us out and we will be better for it.


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Can we sign John Bercow as defensive coach once he leaves his current job on 31st October. An absolute master at breaking up attacks on parliamentary sovereignty...
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