Brexit

We would most definitely NOT want to join the Euro in its current form. You can't have a currency union without fiscal union as the PIIGS countries have found to their detriment. But, as I've said in the past, the EU is not the Eurozone.

I suppose EFTA membership (or something very similar) would be OK, but that wouldn't halt the freedom of movement which is one of the sticking points for most Brexiters who only see the 'negative' of them there foreigners coming to benight our golden shores rather than our ability (and that of our children) to travel and live and work in most European countries ourselves. The fact that non-EU immigration, which we have always been able to control (if we hadn't needed them to support our ageing population, has long outpaced that of EU citizens and continues unabated seems to have passed most Brexiters by as well.

No deal will be a shitshow, if it eventually happens. I have a sneaking feeling that the EU might let us stew for a few months before opening the door for our return, minus the rebate and various other benefits of membership which we have enjoyed, of course.

Quoted from Marinerz93

Heard the same old guff about not joining the Euro, Europhiles will stop at nothing, just a bunch of cry babies playing chicken little, the sky's falling in ha ha. Even the doom mongering comments about the vote in 2016, the majority of it never happened and when the UK picked up again after a slight dip, the remoaning cry babies gave birth to the phrase despite Brexit, ha ha

Quick do your Eu war dance.

You’ve just underlined the point. Go on, make sound economic argument for brexit without a silly picture or a childish insult....

Quoted from chaos33

You’ve just underlined the point. Go on, make sound economic argument for brexit without a silly picture or a childish insult....

Here remoaner have some of the EU milkshake,

EU democracy - doesn't seem to be the case according to a lot of angry Euorpean MEP's, about 52 mins in.

So, with our new Prime Minister who was put into office by 0.03% of the electorate, we're now "taking back control" by shutting down parliament for 5 weeks to deny the people who actually were elected (the MPs) to have an input into the process. How democratic.

Johnson (very apt name, because he's a male private) is also talking about the possiblity of cramming the Lords with even more unelected cronies to force through the hardest of Brexits, something which we were assured wasn't on the agenda at the time of the referendum.

Start stockpiling, folks. It could be a bumpy ride.  

If we leave with or without a deal and Scotland have another referendum and leave the UK rejoining the EU. Will they have to have a hard border with England ?

If the Scots left the UK, they would need to apply for membership of the EU. There would, of course, be a transitionary period where there wouldn't need to be a hard border. Just like the backstop would allow in Northern Ireland. Oddly enough, the Northern Irish didn't want to leave the EU, either.

It would be a complex situation, requiring a complex solution. Something which many Brexiteers don't seem to be able to or want to understand.

Remember, the hard Brexiteers really don't give a flying intercourse about Northern Ireland. They are just using it as an excuse to get the wackiest of hard Brexits. Aided and abetted by the fuckwits of the DUP, of course.

My thoughts are there would be a hard border because England will have different rules with our imports from the USA and others otherwise there would be no reason for a hard border at all in Ireland .

Still find interesting what will happen if we leave with no deal as Boris has already said we shall not be putting up a hard border so if it happens it will be down to the EU.

I bet the EU will come up with some plan or other so all the ongoing talking and arguing will have been for nothing and we could have left with a deal months ago.

Quoted from Maringer

So, with our new Prime Minister who was put into office by 0.03% of the electorate, we're now "taking back control" by shutting down parliament for 5 weeks to deny the people who actually were elected (the MPs) to have an input into the process. How democratic.

Johnson (very apt name, because he's a male private) is also talking about the possiblity of cramming the Lords with even more unelected cronies to force through the hardest of Brexits, something which we were assured wasn't on the agenda at the time of the referendum.

Start stockpiling, folks. It could be a bumpy ride.  

If democracy really mattered to you, you would have been venting all over here when we didn't leave on the 31st March as voted by parliament when they triggered article 50, you remember that once in a life time democratic vote that had more people (17 Million Fcuk Off's EU) engaged in politics than ever before, the MP's triggered the leave date and that was on the basis to leave on 31st March with or without a deal. Of course you are a staunch europhile so it suited you to ignore that bit of anti democracy.

Johnson may well be a male private and a host of other expletives, no arguments there but he has outsmarted the remoaning europhiles, if they spent less time rimming Verhofstadt and Macron they may have been awake enough to counter Boris, and they wouldn't be left with that sad face falling off a cliff, you can try your little EU war dance as a last resort but it'll be in vain as Boris has done all the europhiles in one swoop without breaking sweat.

Europhiles out smarted by Boris


Europhiles realising they have been out smarted by Boris and can't do anything about it.

Surely we didn't leave on 29 March (31st was a Sunday) because Tories such as Rees-Mogg kept us in by voting agaunst the deal?