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As to what will happen. copulated if I know. But the odds are we will leave with a deal and it'll involve the Irish backstop.
They need to get the Irish border right. Because whatever is in place will become the default border for England & Scotland when Scotland go independent and join the EU.
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They need to get the Irish border right. Because whatever is in place will become the default border for England & Scotland when Scotland go independent and join the EU.
But will the EU sanction Scotland trying to join as an independent country? I recall when they had their referendum and the line being if Scotland had decided to leave the UK, they could not be admitted immediately to the EU because they have to still follow the strict membership criteria ( the process can take years I believe ) More importantly though, Spain were preparing to veto any application they made because they saw Scotland's independence acting as a potential catalyst to the Basques etc wanting to have their own independence However this all plays out it's going to be a right b u g g e r ' s m u d d l e
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Poignant that Mugabe has recently passed away; think carefully when voting in he next General Election ....Corbyn who has spent the majority of his life campaigning with every anti-western tyrant, Marxist heroes who have all ended up destroying their countries...we must not let it happen here!
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GollyGTFC |
September 9, 2019, 10:05am |
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Poignant that Mugabe has recently passed away; think carefully when voting in he next General Election ....Corbyn who has spent the majority of his life campaigning with every anti-western tyrant, Marxist heroes who have all ended up destroying their countries...we must not let it happen here!
Oh do fvck off. This is the Fishy. Not the Daily fvcking Mail.
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September 9, 2019, 10:16am |
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Poignant that Mugabe has recently passed away; think carefully when voting in he next General Election ....Corbyn who has spent the majority of his life campaigning with every anti-western tyrant, Marxist heroes who have all ended up destroying their countries...we must not let it happen here!
Ah, crap, you didn't mention Venzuela. I'd have completed my bullshit bingo card if you had. Corbyn is a moderate social democrat, not a Marxist nationalist turned African dictator. Comparison of the two is risible nonsense - the fact that the Murdoch press is slinging around such nonsensical slurs is to be expected, but please engage your brain before lapping them up.
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Grimbiggs |
September 9, 2019, 11:15am |
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So much of a social democrat, that he ignores the will of the people. In the words of Emily Thornberry" prepared to got back to the EU, negotiate a deal bring it back to the house, ignore Labour's own deal, and back remain". I suggezt you stay off the juice, and get back to believing everyting you read in the Guardian, or more likely the Mirror!...social democrats my a##e!
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it’s not the will of the people to have a no deal Brexit and anyone who claims otherwise is a moron.
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FishOutOfWater |
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it’s not the will of the people to have a no deal Brexit and anyone who claims otherwise is a moron.
I saw something the other day that said that of those who voted for Brexit, 75% won't object to leaving, with no deal with the EU in place I can't recall where it was I saw that figure ( a YouGov poll maybe? ) but there must be a lot of morons out there going by your "reasoning"
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I saw something the other day that said that of those who voted for Brexit, 75% won't object to leaving, with no deal with the EU in place I can't recall where it was I saw that figure ( a YouGov poll maybe? ) but there must be a lot of morons out there going by your "reasoning"
Yep!
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But there are. People going ‘just get it done’. I wish to make this life changing decision on a ‘run out of patience’ and ‘a ‘frustrated at not having understood the balance of the relevant complex issues contained herein’ basis!’ Leave means leave! Even if it’s tantamount to smashing ourselves in the face with an iron anvil and then throwing myself off a cliff, I want brexit. It’s the will of (some of) the people! Tune in to any radio show or tv debate and it’s stuffed with bigoted, inarticulate, ill informed, unbalanced oafs expressing the above.
To have democracy you need to be able to make ‘informed decisions’. This isn’t the case here.
There isn’t a ‘deal’. There never was and there never will be. This is a legal and technical matter, and not a business transaction and the EU have treated it as such, you’ll note. Stay or leave. Up to you. There are years and years of complex technical diplomatic, trade and political arrangements that would befit a discussion on how we might extract ourselves. The idea that you just walk away from your responsibilities without sorting out what the future holds is the territory of the nutjob. And yet, the media and the public go on and on about a ‘deal’ or ‘no deal’ like it was buying a car or a f***ing game show, and the least statesmanlike leader we’ve ever had goes on repeating empty platitudes and crass sound bytes and that’s it. Look at the stark contrast evident today between Varadkar and Johnson. One of them articulate, measured, informed, statesmanlike....the other one Boris Johnson. What a national embarrassment.
We are now in farce land, and the world looks on and concludes - what a set of fools!
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