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Marinerz93
October 22, 2019, 7:13pm

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What else does your crystal ball say, Pete?

If a confirmatory referendum did take place and the Electoral Commission properly policed the expenditure of the campaigns this time around (no untraceable money funnelled in through Northern Ireland this time, thanks) then nobody could complain about the outcome. Some might bemoan it, but it should be accepted.

A less supine BBC willing to call out dishonesty in claims and outright lies made by politicians (of either side, naturally), would also be helpful in the event of a confirmatory referendum. The papers would be printing enough lies as it stands and, no doubt, facebook would be awash with them so it would be useful if the national broadcaster did its job properly.


Can we have the same apply to Soros and his schill Miller, and if we shoot down that squadron of flying pigs maybe just maybe we will have some neutral representation in the media and press instead of the pro remain bias we have suffered for years, especially the BBC with programs such as Question Time.


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Ha ha. You mentioned Soros, for some bizarre reason. Whacky stuff as usual.

Neutral representation in the media? Just what exactly do you think the Express, Mail, Telegraph, Sun and to a lesser extent, the Sunday Times and Times do?
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Can we have the same apply to Soros and his schill Miller, and if we shoot down that squadron of flying pigs maybe just maybe we will have some neutral representation in the media and press instead of the pro remain bias we have suffered for years, especially the BBC with programs such as Question Time.


This is irony right? Where is the balanced press? Most of our media is owned by foreign billionaires who have a great deal to gain from a no deal particularly Brexit...the BBC is a strange one I'll give you that although an old mate of mine who is in a senior position there explains it thus. "We must be doing something right because both the Left and the Right reckon we're biased"


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October 25, 2019, 9:33pm

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Ha ha. You mentioned Soros, for some bizarre reason. Whacky stuff as usual.

Neutral representation in the media? Just what exactly do you think the Express, Mail, Telegraph, Sun and to a lesser extent, the Sunday Times and Times do?


I was replying to your post where you said "(no untraceable money funnelled in through Northern Ireland this time, thanks)" to add balance that money for remain was coming from sources determined to undermine democracy, open society is just as questionable. Your reply was to be expected, as Melchett often says...Baaah



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October 25, 2019, 9:55pm

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This is irony right? Where is the balanced press? Most of our media is owned by foreign billionaires who have a great deal to gain from a no deal particularly Brexit...the BBC is a strange one I'll give you that although an old mate of mine who is in a senior position there explains it thus. "We must be doing something right because both the Left and the Right reckon we're biased"


Back in March  the BBC was told they will face sanctions and fines from its new regulator unless it ends its Brexit bias.

This was confirmed by Ofcom’s handling of their first major BBC-rooted complaint – a submission which in great detail tracked the composition of 25 BBC1 Question Time panels and found that 22 of them had more supporters of ‘Remain’ than ‘Leave’. The Content Board rejected the complaint by considering in detail only one of the programmes. The core ruling was that Damian Green, then work and pensions minister, had adequately put the Leave perspective.

So because Damian Green put across a reasoned counter argument in one programme it's declared fair , what happened to being non bias, even though it has been highlighted that out of 25 airings of Question time 22 of of those were weighted for remain. I like watching Question time mainly to hear what special guests have to say and to see how the audience reacts to what is being said, which the majority of audiences are for leave.

Maybe your friend can point me to the information that highlights how the BBC is pro Brexit.


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This is irony right? Where is the balanced press? Most of our media is owned by foreign billionaires who have a great deal to gain from a no deal particularly Brexit...the BBC is a strange one I'll give you that although an old mate of mine who is in a senior position there explains it thus. "We must be doing something right because both the Left and the Right reckon we're biased"


If staff didn’t go backwards and forwards regularly from the BBC to the Tory Party you would have more of a point!
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You assume a lot by suggesting that ALL remainers (get the spelling right) are left wingers. I was in London yesterday, and the protesters are from all political backgrounds, and some, like myself, have no particular alliance. One thing that did stand out as that EVERY speaker, from all parties, gave the rally "facts" not slogans. I too don't want Jeremy Corbyn as prime minister, but I don't want any of those sneering, snarling, lying Tories either. Kier Starmer would be the stand out candidate for PM for me, not only because he is anti Brexit, but because he recognises the threat to our NHS, Trading Agreements and most of all, that the Tories just want to deliver on their promise to Trump to crash the UK economy, and deliver us to the USA as the 51st state.

The problem here is that consecutive Conservative government's have lied about the facts. This because, they don't actually have any facts. All they can bleat is "will of the people", a term coined by the Right Wing politiciaians in power and presented to the "Leave" group to use to drive that Right wing movement. This is a tactic used by Adolf Hitler, to stir up the masses against the minorities in their communities.

Maybe the Tories too, want to give Remainers little yellow stars on blue backgrounds, so that they can be rounded up and got rid of.

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If it's liars you want :-



Also don't forget those lying twits Blair and Campbell, oh and Major lied to his wife whilst shagging Edwina Currie.

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If it's liars you want :-



Also don't forget those lying twits Blair and Campbell, oh and Major lied to his wife whilst shagging Edwina Currie.



Got me wondering what he told her.... " I need to call in and get some eggs on the way home dearest. Won't be too late back "  
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Some want an election and some want a referendum.

So why don't they have it on the same day even on the same ballot paper,

You vote for who you want then you have 3 choices,

Remain

Leave with that deal

Abstain  I have lost the will to live.


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We’d have ‘got Brexit done’ by now if we had grown up politics like in countries like most of Northern Europe where they’re used to cross party deals because they have to due to having PR systems. The government should have formed a team from the main parties and ensured buy in. Especially as it’s a long term matter like pensions. It needs cross party support. It’s the normal course in any complicated negotiation process to get all your stakeholders aligned. Of course we wouldn’t have had May’s (or Davies’ or Johnson’s) stupid red lines and left ourselves more room for manoeuvre. There’d be no excuse to delay or back out. It would have been a softer Brexit but it would have commanded wider support in the Commons and the country.


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