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Roast Em Bobby
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I read an article the other day that suggested Boris will call an election for late september citing the eu as being intransigent. Torys will then campaign for no deal to win back support from the brexit party and hope they squeeze back in.

Sounded quite a plausible set of events to me.


The most fundamental fact is that there is a trade-off between the ability to determine our own rules and access to foreign markets. This fact of life isn’t applicable just to the EU but to any advanced free trade agreement. If you take a purist position on sovereignty, we won’t get advanced trade deals, we will trade less and we will be poorer.

Awaiting the promised "Sunlit Uplands" of Brexit (but expecting a excrement show)
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Rik e B
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Or Golly:

Try and force through no deal and see the government collapse, a general election called and the Conservatives do a deal with Farage's Brexit party and win by a landslide
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I think they will be told by the EU its the deal or no deal no more talking,

Then the deal will be put to the house for a 4th time and will go through,

OR

We go out without a deal and the government will say it was Labours fault for not voting for it.


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I think they will be told by the EU its the deal or no deal no more talking,

Then the deal will be put to the house for a 4th time and will go through,

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In which case we may have well have kept Theresa May rather than the flipping buffoon the Tories are about to elect



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Boris at yesterday tory hustings event "“You disaggregate the elements of the otherwise defunct Withdrawal Agreement.. You reserve the payment of the £39bn. That is in the context of the Free Trade Agreement, that we’ll negotiate in the implementation period, after we’ve come out on Oct 31st

Idiot doesn't even realise that there is only an implementation period, if we agree to the withdrawal agreement.

He also got called out for being completely wrong on his claim about being able to use GATT Article 24 the day before.

Guy hasn't got a clue, but his rabid supporters are happily ignoring all forms of truth at this stage.


The most fundamental fact is that there is a trade-off between the ability to determine our own rules and access to foreign markets. This fact of life isn’t applicable just to the EU but to any advanced free trade agreement. If you take a purist position on sovereignty, we won’t get advanced trade deals, we will trade less and we will be poorer.

Awaiting the promised "Sunlit Uplands" of Brexit (but expecting a excrement show)
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Quoted from Roast Em Bobby
I read an article the other day that suggested Boris will call an election for late september citing the eu as being intransigent. Torys will then campaign for no deal to win back support from the brexit party and hope they squeeze back in.

Sounded quite a plausible set of events to me.


Interesting take..It would be a huge leap of faith for Boris whose own seat is far from safe in Remain London. It would put Labour under intense pressure however.
Rik:- Whether a deal with Farage's mob would entice voters in Labours heartlands or whether their hate of the Tories would mean they would vote traditionally is a moot point.


I have an inferiority complex-It's not a very good one though.
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Boris has made a very poor start and Hunt takes an early lead in the race.

Long way to go yet though.


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Interesting take..It would be a huge leap of faith for Boris whose own seat is far from safe in Remain London. It would put Labour under intense pressure however.
Rik:- Whether a deal with Farage's mob would entice voters in Labours heartlands or whether their hate of the Tories would mean they would vote traditionally is a moot point.


Johnson will also face a massive backlash over his lack of opposition to the Heathrow new runway, his constituency is very close and he promised he would lie in front of the bulldozers to help get himself elected and disappeared when it came to voting
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he promised he would lie in front of the bulldozers


Now that is something I'd pay to see (on the understanding that the bulldozer had no brakes of course)



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Anyway, the masterplan is working on both sides of the Atlantic:



Through the door there came familiar laughter,
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