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Grim74
May 29, 2019, 6:32pm
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Corrected for you. And not the English people who are just coming onto the electoral role at 18 either. We've all been lied to, there's no doubt about that. Brexit cannot and could never, happen in the way in the way Farage has wet dreams about, and the Union preserved at the same time. RoI and Northern Ireland didn't vote for Brexit so why should they have a border when the Good Friday Agreement says there shouldn't be a border. The only Brexit that there can be with preservation of the United Kingdom is a Norway +. For a Farage Brexit there needs to be another referendum, but this time it needs to called the English independence referendum - that wasn't on the ballot paper last time...



flipping hells bells all together now for the dense amongst us 1,2,3.............  it was a UK referendum! The Jocks and half the northern Irish will just have to have a hard suck on democracy we voted as a nation deal with it.
Of course Brexit could happen what a stupid defeatist comment spoken like a true London centric anti British alien! To paraphrase a strong true leader “ we tell the EU we are leaving in October the door is open if you want to talk a trade deal, if we don’t hear from you we are gone”  easy as that. Only a weak, submissive, dim-witted sham of a leader would take no deal of the table, any half decent businessman would tell you that.

Bollox to Norway + bollox to another referendum, bollox to compromise  and bollox to anti-British shithole London, we are the greatest country in the world and we will call the shots, sick of hearing quisling leftie gutless remoaners putting this amazing nation down absolute traitors, in a near perfect world I’d have treason laws back in place for people like you then round up and have shot vince cable and his treacherous mob.


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Who wants a border in Ireland not us its the EU wanting to check what we might be sending into the Republic. As Grim pointed out we are the United Kingdom and even some area's in England voted to remain but as the UK  as a whole voted out there will be some remoaners harping on about another vote.

We are not having one but if we did the result would be the same just except it.


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Who wants a border in Ireland not us its the EU wanting to check what we might be sending into the Republic. As Grim pointed out we are the United Kingdom and even some area's in England voted to remain but as the UK  as a whole voted out there will be some remoaners harping on about another vote.

We are not having one but if we did the result would be the same just except it.


Remoaners right now



Quick remoaners do your EU war dance.


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Me with my mad pictures and you with your videos of Grim74 at home, you call me childish, you sit aloft in your ivory tower looking down on everyone else who has a different view to you yours, like most cry baby remoaners, (sad face) falling off a cliff Brexit.

I haven't used Tim Fallon as the Leader of the Lim Dems but that annoying cry baby face he used to pull when mentioning Brexit and falling off a cliff, Tim Fallon is the face of falling off a cliff Brexit (sad Brexit face)



The cons are in the main a Brexit Party as they triggered article 50 and have put forward plans for the deal, der. It's the remoaners from the other parties that are stopping democracy and those Brexiteers within the Cons who would rather have a no deal with the league of remoaners from other parties.

Come back with some real stats including how many people overall in the UK voted for the Brexit party but you won't will you. Below is North East Lincs results, Brexit parties well in the lead.



North East Lincolnshire results
Change UK – The Independent Group: 871 (2.67%)

Conservative and Unionist Party: 3,224 (9.9%)

English Democrats: 445 (1.37%)

Green Party: 2,370 (7.28%)

Labour Party: 3,444 (10.58%)

Liberal Democrats: 2,916 (8.95%)

The Brexit Party: 16,895 (51.88%)

The Yorkshire Party: 168 (0.52%)

UK Independence Party (UKIP): 2,234 (6.86%)

Total votes counted: 32,567

Electorate: 114,382

Turnout: 28.7%

The Brexit party didn't exist 6 weeks ago, it has just knocked out all the major players in politics, had this been a remoaners party you would have wet your pants and be doing your EU war dance outside the Town hall.



Who is Tim Fallon?


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Now, I'm no Tony Blair fan. Far from it, but if you listen carefully to this whole interview, there is an awful lot of sense in here. If not sense, then fact.

This country faces a new binary choice. This is a reality. A no deal brexit, or to remain. There is no compromise.
I think it's absolutely self evident what we should do, but the issue we have now is related to what the two major parties do next.

There is an absolutely key point at 8:09.


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Who is Tim Fallon?



Tim Farron, my bad, I blame Brexit.  


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Corrected for you. And not the English people who are just coming onto the electoral role at 18 either. We've all been lied to, there's no doubt about that. Brexit cannot and could never, happen in the way in the way Farage has wet dreams about, and the Union preserved at the same time. RoI and Northern Ireland didn't vote for Brexit so why should they have a border when the Good Friday Agreement says there shouldn't be a border. The only Brexit that there can be with preservation of the United Kingdom is a Norway +. For a Farage Brexit there needs to be another referendum, but this time it needs to called the English independence referendum - that wasn't on the ballot paper last time...



We were not lied to.

An independent self governing country can do anything it likes; in any event the EU say they wont put up a border, we won't put up a border and Ireland wont put up a border.

We voted to leave by a substantial majority and that means leaving all the institutions of the EU - or what you would presumably call a "Farage Brexit"

It was a UK wide referendum by the way.
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40% voted for Remain parties, 35% voted for Brexit parties, 25% voted Labour Tory. Just underlines how split the country is.

The next PM will be chosen by 320 Tory MPs and then 160,000 Tory subscribers and will then, probably, be kicked out by a vote of no confidence and we end up with a GE, probably another hung Parliament and we go round in ever decreasing circles.

What a mess!


That is simply an outright lie. Both the Conservative and Labour parties policies is to deliver Brexit for a start so a substantial number of their votes will support Brexit . Some of the Lib Dem votes will be for other things rather than Brexit; ditto with the Green party.
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I've come to the conclusion that the only way this will ever be resolved is if the conservatives elect a hardline brexiteer (hopefully that girl private Boris) and they push through a no deal Brexit. Then the utter excrement-show that will follow will ensure that right wing politics and the deluded nationalists live in shame for the rest of time.
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It’s not that they’re swinging to the right or even the extreme right that’s just MSM leftie mantra you are gobbling on, the problem is that the party is stuffed full with EUrophile red Tory’s, get rid of these idiots like Rory Stewart FFS and the party can start being Conservative again and listening to the DEMOCRATIC will of the people.


Out of interest how would you counter the arguments Rory Stewart makes in this video?
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