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123614
October 16, 2023, 12:04pm
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No clue but it isn’t the point. He needed to sign a competent L2 left back, not the next Roberto Carlos. He failed to and as such we have a big weakness down that side. That is on Hurst, regardless of when he was turned down or how many he spoke to.


Lol, what a ridiculous answer.
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October 16, 2023, 12:14pm
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You are incapable of understanding very simple concepts and are incredibly obstinate even in the face of overwhelming evidence against you. Totally pointless replying to any of the guff you write on here.
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If we was et down at the last minute, how the hell would we be able to try and sign another player, get the paperwork done etc. all before the window closes?  Don't you think that by the last minute, all other LBs would probably have got a deal signed sealed and delivered by then? I really do not understand how people think it's so easy to go out and sign a specific player at the drop of a hat.



Honestly, I think we've all noticed.

I'm not even sure what you're arguing against now.
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I don't buy that excuse. There were 3.5 months between last season ending and the summer window closing, so for it to boil down to someone letting us down at the last minute doesn't wash with me.


PH probably wasn't looking for a left back in the close season as we had two in the squad. Then Glennon started the season like he had never played football before, which probably expedited a rapid search before the deadline.
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October 16, 2023, 1:15pm
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PH probably wasn't looking for a left back in the close season as we had two in the squad. Then Glennon started the season like he had never played football before, which probably expedited a rapid search before the deadline.


Summed up the facts in a paragraph rather than a meandering 86 post thread


"You should do what you love while you can"
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October 16, 2023, 1:32pm
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Hurst couldn't make his mind up all last season on either Glennon or Amos. There wasn't a single point where he trusted either on a consistent basis.  He even brought in Owen Gallacher, a lad released by struggling Crawley and has since rocked up at Spennymoor Town, to see if he would be an improvement.

I honestly struggle to believe that left-back wasn't an identified position for improvement over the summer.   If not, then it has to go down as a glaring oversight.
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Who remembers the slightly weird 'Glennon to Preston' rumours in the Summer? Going full conspiracy I wonder where they came from and if we were trying to create space in the squad for a new left back. Having 3 in the squad is a bit extravagant at our level.
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Who remembers the slightly weird 'Glennon to Preston' rumours in the Summer? Going full conspiracy I wonder where they came from and if we were trying to create space in the squad for a new left back. Having 3 in the squad is a bit extravagant at our level.


Of course many have argued Glennon is actually better further forward as the old LM with Amos/another behind him.One of very few players in our squad who can actually cross a football ⚽️
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Thing is, Glennon actually looked good in the cup games he played against higher opposition.  Think it was Southampton away where he recovered from a shaky first ten or fifteen minutes to put in a very good display, both defensively and attacking.

Scouting isn't as basic as that.  But having a game on terrestrial TV is always going to be a great way of putting yourself in the window a little.  It's not unfeasible that any manager or scout would have watched that game, then glanced at his stats (which were decent last season) and thought 'might be worth a go'.  It could have ended there, but that's probably enough for stories to be run.  Pete O'Rourke, who ran the stories, isn't often wrong.

I think there's merit in saying that Glennon would be better suited further forward, something Hurst did try at times last season.  But defensively neither he nor Amos are good enough on a consistent basis, something that most teams have cottoned onto and make a point of targeting that side.

Speaking of the cup games, Amos was outstanding in the home replay win over Luton.  Yet he just can't back it up every week.  He's never a 7/10.  It's either a 8-9/10 or a 4/10.  
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Gordon Bennett, will you listen to yourselves?  
You are arguing about things you just cannot know about. You don't know if all some none of the signings were first choice second or what was left over once others had signed them. You argue amongst yourselves as if you had been in on the contractual discussions, were party to the Budget negotiations and obviously you are invited to all the team talks and half time discussions. None of us know anything, we are all in the dark.
What we do know is what we see and that is the team playing poorly, and subs being made strangely.  Everything else is pure imagination and invention.
Now I'm a great believer in that 2+2=4 teams. If they become 2+2=5 that's fantastic, Alex Ferguson and Buckley style. We aren't there. In fact we are rarely 2+2=4 and mostly 2+2=3. The team is not the sum of its parts. They are disjointed and play as strangers. It's all down to the Management team.
But do stop writing as if you are in the know.
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