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October 15, 2023, 11:06am
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The talk is of a defeat next week at Stockport who are leading the table. Albeit at home we beat leaders Gillingham so why not a draw at least? Hurst has all week to prepare the team with a full computerised backroom staff to assist him.


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October 15, 2023, 12:15pm
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I think in the past it has been stated that it will be a long time before we play Scunthorpe again.

If we get relegated and they get promoted, that could be next season.


Has someone posted this already, as there are too many comments to go through to find out?

Thank you.
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I’ll start my prediction for Stockport early….Lose
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Hurst will take the can for whats happening whether it be this week or later but you also have to question these so called better players weve signed.

God they have been disappointing. A lot of them just look like squad players.

Hurst is normally a good judge of a player, even if they don't hang around too long so what's the story there? You can tell he is very disappointed with them.

I hope this more sophisticated data analysis approach hasn't made things more complicated than it needed to be, and even if it hasn't it has not been a roaring success.
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October 15, 2023, 12:24pm

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Quoted from LH
I think he’s probably got three games to turn it around. Next week is a bit of a freebie because it’d be a tough game regardless of how we’re playing. The two after that are probably must wins though now because we’ll be getting dragged into the bottom two or three if we don’t.


Think that’s probably right but, like someone else has mentioned, seems to be kicking the can down the road and putting off the inevitable. Next Saturday is a no-lose situation really - away at the league’s in form team & top of the league, anything other than double figures just gets written off. Then he needs 6 points off the next Col U & in-form Donny otherwise we’re back here. Let’s hope there’s no sticky pitches, wind, missed chances, bad refs or other acts of god.
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October 15, 2023, 12:55pm

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Three games/two weeks gives the board two weeks to put a shortlist together should they need it too. Thinking about it more I don’t know what would actually change if we did get 6 from 9 in the next two weeks - we won’t have changed how we play will we?
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Here are the records of all managers we've had to League Two (L2 matches only)...

Permanent League Two Managers

Slade I     - P 92   W 36   D 28   L 28   GD +19   Pts 136   PPG 1.48
Hurst I     - P 14   W 6    D 2    L 6    GD 0     Pts 20    PPG 1.43
Bignot      - P 26   W 9    D 7    L 10   GD -4    Pts 34    PPG 1.31
Jolley      - P 72   W 25   D 15   L 32   GD -14   Pts 90    PPG 1.25
Buckley III - P 81   W 28   D 16   L 37   GD -23   Pts 100   PPG 1.23
PERMANENTS  - P 541  W 173  D 143  L 225  GD -124  Pts 662   PPG 1.22
Holloway    - P 33   W 11   D 7    L 15   GD -15   Pts 40    PPG 1.21
Hurst II    - P 84   W 24   D 26   L 34   GD -25   Pts 98    PPG 1.17
Slade II    - P 38   W 11   D 10   L 17   GD -18   Pts 43    PPG 1.13
Woods       - P 33   W 6    D 16   L 11   GD -12   Pts 34    PPG 1.03
Newell      - P 50   W 12   D 12   L 26   GD -18   Pts 48    PPG 0.96
Rodger      - P 17   W 4    D 4    L 9    GD -14   Pts 16    PPG 0.94

Caretaker League Two Managers

Moore 2016  - P 1    W 0    D 1    L 0    GD 0     Pts 1     PPG 1.00
Lindrick    - P 8    W 1    D 4    L 3    GD -6    Pts 7     PPG 0.88
CARETAKERS  - P 16   W 1    D 7    L 8    GD -15   Pts 10    PPG 0.63
Davies      - P 2    W 0    D 1    L 1    GD -2    Pts 1     PPG 0.50
Watkiss     - P 3    W 0    D 1    L 2    GD -4    Pts 1     PPG 0.33
Moore 2018  - P 2    W 0    D 0    L 2    GD -3    Pts 0     PPG 0.00
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October 15, 2023, 1:46pm
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Hurst will take the can for whats happening whether it be this week or later but you also have to question these so called better players weve signed.

God they have been disappointing. A lot of them just look like squad players.

Hurst is normally a good judge of a player, even if they don't hang around too long so what's the story there? You can tell he is very disappointed with them.

I hope this more sophisticated data analysis approach hasn't made things more complicated than it needed to be, and even if it hasn't it has not been a roaring success.


The complicated statement is a pertinent one - I posted the other day about something that really hacks me off, so here goes again!
Why does Hurst feels it's Steve Croudson's job to use a flip chart to shout instructions to our defence when opposition get a set piece free kick/corner
FFS!
Are the players/defence/captain/keeper incapable of sorting things out themselves?
Do they honestly need that level of coaching?
I noticed yesterday when we won a corner all the Acc coach shouted was 'get organised'
Bingo!
Surely to God that's all is needed rather than a flip chart of diagrams and data

This plus systems, tinkering, 4141 etc etc - is it just all too complicated?


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Quoted from buckstown
Its a strange situation because PH is very good at keeping a strong dressing room and rooting out trouble causers. There's clearly an issue, maybe it's one of the "undroppable" players but whatever the cause we need drastic action quickly before this season turns into a nightmare.
There's no doubt in my mind that this squad is much better than the performances we're witnessing and that's down to the manager


Why would there be "trouble causers" I thought we had such a backroom team including recruitment officers, plus PH and CD probably watching players as well as PH contacts within the game we wouldn't sign any.
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Why would there be "trouble causers" I thought we had such a backroom team including recruitment officers, plus PH and CD probably watching players as well as PH contacts within the game we wouldn't sign any.


Apart from Luke Waterfall, aren’t the whole squad Hurst signings? He’s told us they do research on players and their backgrounds so that shouldn’t be a problem.
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