We are being "encouraged" to wear a mask

Quoted from HertsGTFC

I'm happy to be given the option, it makes it my choice and decision either way which feels right.

It may have been mentioned earlier on in the thread but having mask wearing as an option could provide our former Board members with the opportunity to attend games, not even they would have the front to turn up undisguised, or maybe they would.  

Joking aside…are you expecting any of them to attend a town game again, especially now there’s no free excrement on offer…

Quoted from pen penfras

If vaccinating 70% of the population hasn't slowed down the spread, which it doesn't really seem to have, plus people being infected twice and post vaccination, then I'm not sure how infection rates will ever drop. Best we can hope for is that it just becomes a flu type illness now that we've got exposure to it and can carry on as normal.

The NHS needs a lot of money pumping into it to deal with the backlog and increased demand from covid. Taxes need to rise, but nobody will be happy with that.

Only just over 50% of the population has been vaccinated (received both jabs). You might be getting mixed up with the proportion of adults vaccinated which is about 2/3 I think.

Quoted from pen penfras

If vaccinating 70% of the population hasn't slowed down the spread, which it doesn't really seem to have, plus people being infected twice and post vaccination, then I'm not sure how infection rates will ever drop. Best we can hope for is that it just becomes a flu type illness now that we've got exposure to it and can carry on as normal.

The NHS needs a lot of money pumping into it to deal with the backlog and increased demand from covid. Taxes need to rise, but nobody will be happy with that.

70% would probably have done the job with Alpha and infections were dropping massively before Delta was let in to spread with a cheery wave. Delta is a lot, lot more infectious than previous variants, even Alpha. Approximately 2.5 times as infectious as the original virus out of Wuhan if the data is correct.

'Herd immunity' for Delta is likely to require around 85% of the population to have good resistance to the virus, either through vaccination of infection (the government's preferred route). We're nowhere near that level yet with tens of millions still vulnerable. Hopefully, the strong protection afforded by the vaccines against serious illness will be quite long-lived in the elderly, even as risk of infection rises back up as antibody levels fall. Still to be determined.

In comparison, Measles is even more infectious than Delta and requires 93 to 95% of the population to have protection to obtain herd immunity. Luckily, the Measles vaccines provide sterilising immunity so this isn't a problem in the Western world except in places where the Anti-vaxx idiots have gained a toehold. It would be nice if we could get a Covid vaccine which provided sterilising immunity, but that doesn't seem likely in the near future at least.

Quoted from Hagrid

Christ another typical OTT Reaction from you

If someone wants to continue to wear a mask so be it

If someone does not wish too so be it

The club are not making it compulsory, get on with your life the way you want to live it and allow others to do the same

Having read all 62 posts, so far, I think Hagrid has summed up the situation perfectly.

It's all down to "personal responsibility", something which is sadly lacking these days.

The question is, what's more important to you - your freedom not to wear a mask, or the freedom of the person sitting next to you not to become infected if your are unknowingly carrying the virus?

'Freedom Day' was about the first type of freedom with no thought about the second.

According to reliable political commentators.....

Internal Conservative Party polling showed that the party's core voters and (more importantly) the Brexit supporting Northern constituencies that had recently voted in Conservative MPs for the first time would not accept continued restrictions and new lockdowns are absolutely unacceptable.

If Johnson didn't 'release' things he was facing an internal revolt and probably the end of his premiership.

That is what 'Freedom Day' is about.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

Do you honestly think the season will pass without fans being banned from attending at some point?

Patrick Vallance said today that 40% of hospitalisations are vaccinated people which to me, means that those vaccines we were assured would put an end to all of this, won't put an end to all of this.

It will be interesting to see what happens to admissions and deaths over the next few weeks but don't hold your breath on being able to attend all 22 home games.

Who said that ? All I’ve ever heard is the opposite and that it would heavily reduce hospital admissions and deaths . Which at the moment t seems to be correct

Quoted from aldi_01

Joking aside…are you expecting any of them to attend a town game again, especially now there’s no free excrement on offer…

I'd be surprised if they did to be honest.

As we’ve all seen from this thread, it doesn’t take long before the whole mask argument turns divisive.

Ultimately a few weeks down the line it’ll become even more so, with those wearing masks being the bastions of morality and those that don’t being knuckle dragging morons.

For me, I respect each person’s opinion irrespective of their belief structure but until all restrictions are lifted and that includes ‘being encouraged’ etc, I’ll be keeping my money in my pocket and listening on hullberside.

It’s not a decision I take lightly, but I’m not willing to be a pawn in a government policy, the only aim being to to put one against another, divide and conquer whilst they rule.