We are being "encouraged" to wear a mask

Quoted from BobbyCummingsTackle

As of July 21st Belgium, Spain and Denmark were very close to our vaccination numbers. Italy, Germany and France were not far behind. All of them are currently accelerating their vaccination rate while the UK's has slowed significantly.
Iceland and Malta are already ahead of us but have a far smaller population.

It won't be months. It'll be a couple of weeks.

Sources: Our World in Data. http://www.statista.com

There was a chart on the BBC yesterday that showed the vaccination progress, and whilst what you're saying sounds true, all of the countries with higher rates saw the same slow down after reaching a similar proportion of the population than us. Canada raced ahead, then stalled and we're now at about the same rate. The same will happen will most of the others, because not everybody is going to get the vaccine and France, who are a very vaccine sceptic country, would be very unlikely to overtake us.

America has the same situation. Vaccine supply is no problem, but they have slowed down for a while now.

At the end of the day, uptake could be the contributing factor in the slow down of uptake.

They’ve floated this ridiculous idea of passports to essentially blackmail people in to having the vaccine. They’re now going after the 20-30 age range, probably the only group of people left that haven’t been blamed…

How were 17 pages in to statement the club had to make is a good effort though.

The message is the same though; if you wanna wear when then wear one, if you don’t, then don’t. Respect each other’s opinions and crack on…

Quoted from pen penfras

There was a chart on the BBC yesterday that showed the vaccination progress, and whilst what you're saying sounds true, all of the countries with higher rates saw the same slow down after reaching a similar proportion of the population than us. Canada raced ahead, then stalled and we're now at about the same rate. The same will happen will most of the others, because not everybody is going to get the vaccine and France, who are a very vaccine sceptic country, would be very unlikely to overtake us.

America has the same situation. Vaccine supply is no problem, but they have slowed down for a while now.

I didn't mention Canada or the US because the original post talked about EU countries. This also meant that I didn't mention Israel who are now seen as the model for vaccination globally. You're right that the rate will slow down as higher proportions of the population are vaccinated but other countries will also begin to vaccinate groups that we have chosen not to vaccinate.

But, France has just announced that you won't be able to attend or enter certain events and public spaces without proving you have had both vaccinations and had also announced that all healthcare workers have to be vaccinated. It's expected that this will speed up their vaccination rate, in a country that's not over keen on vaccination.

I also read a report that Germany's rate of vaccination is ferocious and won't be slowing in the near future. The Germans lagged behind much of Europe relative to it's size, healthcare system and wealth. It is now making up for that at a rate.

Quoted from BobbyCummingsTackle

I didn't mention Canada or the US because the original post talked about EU countries. This also meant that I didn't mention Israel who are now seen as the model for vaccination globally. You're right that the rate will slow down as higher proportions of the population are vaccinated but other countries will also begin to vaccinate groups that we have chosen not to vaccinate.

But, France has just announced that you won't be able to attend or enter certain events and public spaces without proving you have had both vaccinations and had also announced that all healthcare workers have to be vaccinated. It's expected that this will speed up their vaccination rate, in a country that's not over keen on vaccination.

I also read a report that Germany's rate of vaccination is ferocious and won't be slowing in the near future. The Germans lagged behind much of Europe relative to it's size, healthcare system and wealth. It is now making up for that at a rate.

The draconian bullying from the french goes further than simply bullying folk into having a vaccine. A close friend is coming back having spent the entire shebang in France. He’s had french citizenship for a while but is taking the opportunity to visit his parents this summer. His take is that France will see some kick back…they’re introducing the idea that if you need a PCR test you’ll have to pay being one…

Comparing countries throughout this has been commonplace but hasn’t really helped anything…it’s just fuelled more aggression towards either those who don’t want a vaccine or against the government , those in favour of rules and lockdown and those fed up of them…

Quoted from aldi_01

The draconian bullying from the french goes further than simply bullying folk into having a vaccine. A close friend is coming back having spent the entire shebang in France. He’s had french citizenship for a while but is taking the opportunity to visit his parents this summer. His take is that France will see some kick back…they’re introducing the idea that if you need a PCR test you’ll have to pay being one…

Comparing countries throughout this has been commonplace but hasn’t really helped anything…it’s just fuelled more aggression towards either those who don’t want a vaccine or against the government , those in favour of rules and lockdown and those fed up of them…

Whilst using phrases like "the draconian bullying from the French" and "if you need a PCR test you'll have to pay..." (based on the opinion of 'your mate in France')  are helpful in not fuelling aggression?

It’s not an opinion, it’s fact…that’s what they’ve got to do.

The rules are draconian, that’s not fuelling aggression, if someone was to say the idiots following the draconian rules are stupid etc…that’s fuelling aggression, simply describing them for what they are isn’t fuelling anything.

They’re punitive measures. Have they been effective? Probably not, now that is a debate that can cause tempers to fray…

We’re 17 pages in but as I said earlier; wanna wear one? Do it. If you don’t, then don’t. Simples. Nobody is forcing anyone either way.

Quoted from aldi_01

It’s not an opinion, it’s fact…that’s what they’ve got to do.

The rules are draconian, that’s not fuelling aggression, if someone was to say the idiots following the draconian rules are stupid etc…that’s fuelling aggression, simply describing them for what they are isn’t fuelling anything.

They’re punitive measures. Have they been effective? Probably not, now that is a debate that can cause tempers to fray…

We’re 17 pages in but as I said earlier; wanna wear one? Do it. If you don’t, then don’t. Simples. Nobody is forcing anyone either way.

I don't see a single fact in your posts. But, I've been mansplained and I'll shut up because data and verifiable statistics are the enemy of online discussion.

Surely this thread is ‘non footy’?

Quoted from BobbyCummingsTackle

I don't see a single fact in your posts. But, I've been mansplained and I'll shut up because data and verifiable statistics are the enemy of online discussion.

I’ve not stated that data is incorrect? I mean if you want mansplaining it can be arranged but you’re being a bit temperamental to the fact I explained my point…I’ve not even made a comment about yours either.

Did you read the most important sentence? The one that relates to the original topic point; masks? It’s really simple, wear one of you want. If you don’t then don’t bother…did it really need a 17 pages thread which is now simply replicating a pre-existing thread in non footy?

With regard to mask policy. The fact is that the government are doing what the vast majority of this country want them to do.
The usual empty vessels are making the most noise.

I hate wearing a mask.  However, I will wear one tomorrow whilst queuing for match/bar/toilets etc. My view is that if it makes those more cautious than me (no right or wrong there)  feel better, then I’ll do it. I’m looking forward to tomorrow. And if wearing a mask for a little while means others can enjoy it too then so be it.
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