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Mariner_501
October 14, 2023, 7:30pm
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He’s got to go. Biggest budget he will have to get out of league two and closer to relegation. But Stockwood will never sack him
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I’m afraid that when a post match interview just turns into a barrage of excuses then it’s near the end. There was a point where he basically threw the responsibility on the players. They’re his players, his tactics, his formation. He recruited them. The buck stops with him.


If they miss sitters and keep failing to pass the ball to a teammate , that is their responsibility.
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I fear the onslaught of Sky and TV in general (with major extensions forced upon us next season) the obscene commercialism, the selfishness and worshiping of the Premier League is causing untold damage to the soul of Real Football and its Real Football Supporters.  With this in mind many of those running football clubs see no option but to at least pay lip service to so-called “modern thinking” and a ‘corporatisation’ of our clubs to the detriment of its heart & soul.

I fear in the aim to look professional/forward looking/progressive, if PH went we may see a new departure via a Director of Football/Head Coach model introduced.

I sincerely hope/wish Hurst turns it round.  I fully understand the level of frustration out there. But I fear most of all a journey down the road alluded to above

From Busby, Shankly & Clough to Ferguson, Wenger & Mourinho, to Klopp & Guardiola no one of substance would put up with not being in control.  Even at Towns level would the objectionable (but successful) Steve Evans, Crowley or Nigel Clough put up with a Director of Football.

No matter what happens the least favourable option for me is the Director of Football route, which I believe is an option under consideration……..
(red cross below !)
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I expected this from you and I sort of get it but now, not only are the performances excrement, which they have been for long enough, the results are going the same way.

I’m not sure what you’re watching but I’m watching a team that isn’t a team which is very non Hurst. I’m seeing player reactions that deeply concern me and I’m seeing coaches making knee jerk decisions that have no rhyme or reason. Eisa had a shocker today yet Gnahoua got pulled first, Amos and Clifton were dreadful yet played 100 minutes.

I’m sure the board will take a look and make a serious decision but I’m sure they will also want to see the improvement they promised.


Now that sort of sounds like an accusation, as if I'm not allowed my opinion because it doesn't jibe with yours.

"There goes the stupid sod, still defending the indefensible"

I'm watching the same as you, but reaching a different conclusion, if that's alright with you?

The prevailing mood at this time is pitchforks for PH, so doesn't really matter what I say, if it doesn't contain the two words "sack" and "manager", so think I'll leave it there for the fall out.
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October 14, 2023, 7:47pm
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Now that sort of sounds like an accusation, as if I'm not allowed my opinion because it doesn't jibe with yours.

"There goes the stupid sod, still defending the indefensible"

I'm watching the same as you, but reaching a different conclusion, if that's alright with you?

The prevailing mood at this time is pitchforks for PH, so doesn't really matter what I say, if it doesn't contain the two words "sack" and "manager", so think I'll leave it there for the fall out.


I expected your opinion to be different to mine, that isn’t an accusation, it’s just an observation.

On to more serious matters, are you saying you’re ok with watching that? A team that doesn’t appear to be playing for the manager. A squad that he recruited. Not acceptable.
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October 14, 2023, 7:51pm
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Just a thought Holloway is still living in the area and out of work  


All Town aren't we ..... UTM  
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I expected your opinion to be different to mine, that isn’t an accusation, it’s just an observation.

On to more serious matters, are you saying you’re ok with watching that? A team that doesn’t appear to be playing for the manager. A squad that he recruited. Not acceptable.


No, of course not: it's beyond dreadful at times, but there has also been some good stuff as well, albeit not nearly enough.

Absolutely no doubt that there is loads of room for improvement, but there is nothing to say that it won't be PH that brings about that improvement, as he's done in the past.

However, if the board decide it's time for a change, then there will be no argument from me. Matt Dean asked earlier if he still has any credit in the bank, and for me he still does, but the balance is shifting to equilibrium and won't take long to tip the other way.
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Why are people taking this as an opportunity to slate our Chairman? Bizzare
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Why are people taking this as an opportunity to slate our Chairman? Bizzare


Simple. The Chair is the ultimate boss at the club. When things are going wrong at the club he is ultimately responsible. So when that happens fair criticism seems reasonable.
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No, of course not: it's beyond dreadful at times, but there has also been some good stuff as well, albeit not nearly enough.

Absolutely no doubt that there is loads of room for improvement, but there is nothing to say that it won't be PH that brings about that improvement, as he's done in the past.

However, if the board decide it's time for a change, then there will be no argument from me. Matt Dean asked earlier if he still has any credit in the bank, and for me he still does, but the balance is shifting to equilibrium and won't take long to tip the other way.


I'm sorry but no, he doesn't have any credit in the bank, not now.
I believe its 4 wins in 17 games now, he's even run out of loose change from down the back of the sofa for me now.
Honestly, the football at home last season was dire, I think the run of wins towards the end masked how poor we were and bar Gillingham/Salford this season has so far been the same.
We have no style, no identity, he constantly tinkers, plays players out of form whilst in form players sit warming the bench.
Thanks for the greatest play off run and fa Cup but time for a change, we need a complete reboot and to actually see some entertaining, exciting football, at least at home.
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