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To All Who Think Paul Hurst Should Go

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123614
September 17, 2023, 7:34pm
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It's hardly Chinese whispers when the board member told the bloke, in front of others what had been said.
That bloke sits next to me in the ground, and like I said, he's a reputation within the club...I really don't care what you or any other forum member wants to believe/disbelieve but I trust this gentlemans word.


So a reputable board member, tells some bloke, in front of other blokes, that Stockwood was going to sack PH.  Don't believe it for a minute, utter boll0x.

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So a reputable board member, tells some bloke, in front of other blokes, that Stockwood was going to sack PH.  Don't believe it for a minute, utter boll0x.



Yes total bs.


Up The Mariners!
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Quoted from Yoda
Hurst is a mid table manger win one lose one keeps you up but never troubles the top two.
He plays not to lose never to win.
Anyway he’s a multi millionaire now so i imagine how’s not that bothered.


PH's record as a manager since 2009, both with Rob Scott ( who I don't think had the right attitude or attributes) and solo suggests otherwise. 4 promotions , two Wembley appearances in one's season, last seasons record breaking FA Cup is a level of success that a lot of managers only dream of.


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September 17, 2023, 9:06pm

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Quoted from Northbank Mariner
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Fact my @rse.
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Makes me laugh this forum, any modicum of information that goes against the narrative is deemed as rubbish...
I'm just about done with this forum, it's just becoming a pit of negativity...





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So why did a board member tell somebody then?...and that somebody is an old bloke who has pretty strong reputation within the club....
So shove your rubbish up your backside when I know its a fact...


Bizarre levels of aggression. Is everything okay?
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I remember the England manager replying to a question to what would be do if plan A was not working.

Plan B  is to play plan A better.


                             Over 36 years living in Suffolk but always a mariner.
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PH is not perfect - too defensive, reactive and not pro-active with subs, and his teams are not exactly free scoring
But he is a great man manager; players want to play for him; he has a great 'nose' for a player; and has twice got us promoted from a very tough league

The problem we have - and it's a big one - is lack of cutting edge in the final third on a consistent basis; we all have our own opinions as to why that is, not least the failure to attract even someone like Ollie Palmer (big, strong, target man who scores)

We can only theorise as to why we didn't secure someone in TW - but it's a fact that the club will not pay over the odds (even though they probably have to)

He has also been very unlucky with injuries - we've not seen Wilson; barely seen Khan; he lost Rose and Eisa on Saturday; Vernam long-term injury; Pyke - jury still out

L2 is very strong this year - as strong as I can recall - with a few 'wealthy' clubs distorting the picture; albeit I accept the fact several clubs over years have been promoted on shoe-string budgets

All in all I think we are looking at mid table finish at best with PH at the helm cos positives far outweigh negatives... despite the frustrations!
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So all you lot are happy with the negative defensive football at home?

I go to be entertained, Hurst is incapable of providing me with that


I'm entertained. I love the manner in which we pass the ball. Like everyone I'd be even more entertained if we started knocking a few more goals in and something to really cheer about but I can sit quite happily and watch how we control possession of games. It won't always get us a win and there'll no doubt be some games where even our passing game doesn't meet what I would class as 'entertaining' but generally speaking I find games entertaining.

We could spend years splitting hairs on how each poster sees the game and will undoubtedly claim their Football Manager tactic would work in real life, but the reality is that none of us here are professional level coaches. I've done my badges and have plenty of experience coaching and have my beliefs/philosophies of a playing style that are similar in truth to PHs but it's no substitute or comes remotely close to managing/coaching at an elite level. For every person that says 'just go and attack', you'll have someone who counters that with 'we risk leaving ourselves open at the back and conceding more'. For any success you get going direct and playing percentage or territory football there'll be a group of fans who want the ball 'on the deck' and playing the Buckley way.

What you see as negative defensive football I see as patient and slow, probing attacking football. The end result is the same - limited chances with few goals - but the outlook is different across the fanbase and that is why some fans are more understanding of what we're trying to achieve and more reserved in their criticism, some may even argue they're more realist about our expectations at this time in comparison to the last 20 years.
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JS is far to sensible and business like to gossip about PH in public.

Not saying he wouldn’t sack PH, but if/when it’s done it will be done in a thoroughly professional manner.
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I'm entertained. I love the manner in which we pass the ball. Like everyone I'd be even more entertained if we started knocking a few more goals in and something to really cheer about but I can sit quite happily and watch how we control possession of games. It won't always get us a win and there'll no doubt be some games where even our passing game doesn't meet what I would class as 'entertaining' but generally speaking I find games entertaining.

We could spend years splitting hairs on how each poster sees the game and will undoubtedly claim their Football Manager tactic would work in real life, but the reality is that none of us here are professional level coaches. I've done my badges and have plenty of experience coaching and have my beliefs/philosophies of a playing style that are similar in truth to PHs but it's no substitute or comes remotely close to managing/coaching at an elite level. For every person that says 'just go and attack', you'll have someone who counters that with 'we risk leaving ourselves open at the back and conceding more'. For any success you get going direct and playing percentage or territory football there'll be a group of fans who want the ball 'on the deck' and playing the Buckley way.

What you see as negative defensive football I see as patient and slow, probing attacking football. The end result is the same - limited chances with few goals - but the outlook is different across the fanbase and that is why some fans are more understanding of what we're trying to achieve and more reserved in their criticism, some may even argue they're more realist about our expectations at this time in comparison to the last 20 years.


Home performances have been good IMO , we have looked far more controlled and actually controlled all the home league games barring Mansfield , who are just a better side than us which is no disgrace .

Hopefully we can build on it and make BP a fortress this season .
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