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Two of those (Cambridge and Morcambe) were in the freak COVID season.
We’ve punched above our (budget) weight with Hurst since relegation. The anti-Hurst posts on Facebook are ridiculous. I think we are a couple of quality players short of serious contenders but we haven’t seen what Donovan Wilson can do yet.
I think that's debatable - in the promotion season we probably finished about the position of our budget , last season we maybe overchieved by a few positions mainly with the good run at the end of the season . I don't understand anyone that is 'anti Hurst ' though,in that they seem to actively want him out ,which is frankly bizarre given what he has achieved whether that's partly down to luck , managerial ability or a combination of both is irrelevant - he got us out of the national league at the first attempt , stabilised in the first season back alongside a great cup run and we have not started badly . Do I think Hurst is a great manager ? No ,but if he was (much like players ) he would not be here would he . Is he a bad manager ? No He's a consistent one , who has a pragmatic style that gives you great 'moments' in a season but never sustained periods of dominance or attacking free flowing football ; does that bother me ? Not really I like the stability , we know what we are getting ; my reluctance to call for his head, even through the couple of tough spells is partly down to how we have been burnt in the past with a load of volatile destabalising managers . Yeah you might get lucky with one , but our history at least in the last 20 years shows we have got a lot more wrong than right . I think sometimes it's a case of be careful what you wish for .
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September 17, 2023, 12:46pm |
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So all you lot are happy with the negative defensive football at home?
I go to be entertained, Hurst is incapable of providing me with that
In our last home match I was entertained. We all want to see more goalmouth action, but given our attacking injuries, especially yesterday, I’m happy to see how we develop as a team. We are better quality than last year and there is no need for anyone to throw their toys out of the Pram. We all need to get behind the team - it will come.
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September 17, 2023, 1:10pm |
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Listening to PH post game, whatever your views on his tenure, it seemed that the injuries to Rose and Elisa came late in the day, so not too much chance to work on plan B.
I’m slightly more worried about our ability to benefit fully from the “easier” games coming up, as we don’t often manage that
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sonofmadeleymariner |
September 17, 2023, 1:15pm |
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Listening to PH post game, whatever your views on his tenure, it seemed that the injuries to Rose and Elisa came late in the day, so not too much chance to work on plan B.
I’m slightly more worried about our ability to benefit fully from the “easier” games coming up, as we don’t often manage that
What do you mean not having much chance to come up with a plan B? We should be going into every game with more than just plan A. So when things like this happen we can make changes straight away and the transition is clean and easy
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September 17, 2023, 1:44pm |
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I think that's debatable - in the promotion season we probably finished about the position of our budget , last season we maybe overchieved by a few positions mainly with the good run at the end of the season .
I don't understand anyone that is 'anti Hurst ' though,in that they seem to actively want him out ,which is frankly bizarre given what he has achieved whether that's partly down to luck , managerial ability or a combination of both is irrelevant - he got us out of the national league at the first attempt , stabilised in the first season back alongside a great cup run and we have not started badly .
Do I think Hurst is a great manager ? No ,but if he was (much like players ) he would not be here would he . Is he a bad manager ? No
He's a consistent one , who has a pragmatic style that gives you great 'moments' in a season but never sustained periods of dominance or attacking free flowing football ; does that bother me ? Not really
I like the stability , we know what we are getting ; my reluctance to call for his head, even through the couple of tough spells is partly down to how we have been burnt in the past with a load of volatile destabalising managers .
Yeah you might get lucky with one , but our history at least in the last 20 years shows we have got a lot more wrong than right .
I think sometimes it's a case of be careful what you wish for .
Agree on the NL league position I was thinking more we knocked out two clubs with bigger budgets. On the plan B point above, yes ideally we should have a plan B but my point, and I think others on here is as well, we don’t have the players for it. Let’s say Harry Smith, probably not on a lot at Sutton, with him leading the line, we could have had the plan B yesterday.
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September 17, 2023, 2:42pm |
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I know they have a bigger budget than us but we never laid a glove 🥊 n them. A poor weak performance all round
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GrimPol |
September 17, 2023, 2:52pm |
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Agree on the NL league position I was thinking more we knocked out two clubs with bigger budgets.
On the plan B point above, yes ideally we should have a plan B but my point, and I think others on here is as well, we don’t have the players for it. Let’s say Harry Smith, probably not on a lot at Sutton, with him leading the line, we could have had the plan B yesterday.
Plan B is not necessarily about New/Better/Expensive players, its also about approach. In the 2nd half why didn't PH tell them, you are 2-0 down, they are playing well, you best get nearer Wrexham, right inside their shorts. That's how we would have played Champ/Premier teams in the cup straight up. Up close and bother them. At 2-0 down, caution is one of the first things you dump.
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September 17, 2023, 2:59pm |
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Hurst is a mid table manger win one lose one keeps you up but never troubles the top two. He plays not to lose never to win. Anyway he’s a multi millionaire now so i imagine how’s not that bothered.
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September 17, 2023, 2:59pm |
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I think some perspective is needed. Once we’ve played Swindon in a couple of weeks’ time we’ll have played the entire current top 6 in our first 10 games, plus Bradford and Salford who were fancied at the start of the season.
We knew it was a tough start at the beginning of the season, and I think it’s been even tougher in reality as some of the sides that may have looked easier opponents on paper have actually done very well thus far. October sees us play 3 of the current bottom 7; I think Halloween will be a good marker to make a fair and objective appraisal of the front third of the season.
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September 17, 2023, 3:16pm |
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That is complete and utter rubbish.
So why did a board member tell somebody then?...and that somebody is an old bloke who has pretty strong reputation within the club.... So shove your rubbish up your backside when I know its a fact...
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