To All Who Think Paul Hurst Should Go

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With mitigating circumstances.

It was Scunny who pipped us by the skin of their teeth to the last safe spot that season. Wonder what they are doing now?


Who mentioned Scunny?
I mearly stating a fact we were relegated under Hurst, it was an observation!
Are we erasing that fact from history and not allowed to mention it?

Are we really going to have to look at this thread updated every time we lose a game? I don't think I'll bother until and unless it ever actually becomes a relevant question. We are a long, long way from that.

Quoted from ginnywings

With mitigating circumstances.

It was Scunny who pipped us by the skin of their teeth to the last safe spot that season. Wonder what they are doing now?

Bit generous to our 73 man 20/21 vintage!

Quoted from Knut Anders Fosters Voles

If you don’t mind a 40 min walk, get yourself to Fteri beach  in NW Kefalonia. On an island of beautiful beaches, it’s one of the very best.

Lunch at Taverna Gialos Porto Atheras. Tell them Knut sent you and do an impression of a vole.

Non-footy of course.

Thanks for the tip. Duly put on the list for our return visit where we will rent somewhere in the north. Not seen anything north of Poros or Myrtos so plenty to go at next time.

Back to the serious business of plotting Danilo's downfall on Saturday!

Quoted from Poojah

I think some perspective is needed. Once we’ve played Swindon in a couple of weeks’ time we’ll have played the entire current top 6 in our first 10 games, plus Bradford and Salford who were fancied at the start of the season.

We knew it was a tough start at the beginning of the season, and I think it’s been even tougher in reality as some of the sides that may have looked easier opponents on paper have actually done very well thus far. October sees us play 3 of the current bottom 7; I think Halloween will be a good marker to make a fair and objective appraisal of the front third of the season.

Shouldn't Grimsby Town FC be aiming for top 7?  Last year was consolidation.

I find it odd that we're having this debate now.  Next month we play Barrow, Tranmere, Accrington, Stockport, Colchester and Doncaster.  That has to be three wins minimum for the Mariners.

Let's be honest: if that petulant Southampton defender hadn't gifted us a second penalty, we probably would have been knocked out.  The nation would then have enjoyed a tasty south coast derby, instead of a complete non-event as Paul aimed to restrict Brighton to single figures.

Quoted from White_shorts

Shouldn't Grimsby Town FC be aiming for top 7?  Last year was consolidation.

I find it odd that we're having this debate now.  Next month we play Barrow, Tranmere, Accrington, Stockport, Colchester and Doncaster.  That has to be three wins minimum for the Mariners.

Let's be honest: if that petulant Southampton defender hadn't gifted us a second penalty, we probably would have been knocked out.  The nation would then have enjoyed a tasty south coast derby, instead of a complete non-event as Paul aimed to restrict Brighton to single figures.

flipping hell how dare he try to restrict us in a game we had absolutely no chance of winning.

Quoted from Hagrid

flipping hell how dare he try to restrict us in a game we had absolutely no chance of winning.

Trey telling that to Liverpool  Everton  Leicester Southampton  etc  

Quoted from Azimuth

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I mearly stating a fact we were relegated under Hurst, it was an observation!
Are we erasing that fact from history and not allowed to mention it?

He didn't start the season. It wasn't his team. Teams generally don't sell in January because they cannot replace players. Teams are too desperate to either get promoted, snatch play-offs or avoid relegation, so change is very limited in January, and the options you have may not always be good. They're usually unmissed by the selling team. Even then, he basically replaced a big chunk of the first 11, because what Holloway left us with was absolute dross and going to be relegated. I don't think anyone would have saved us there.

Quoted from AncientExiledMariner

He didn't start the season. It wasn't his team. Teams generally don't sell in January because teams cannot replace players. Teams are too desperate to either get promoted, snatch play-offs or avoid relegation, so change is very limited in January, and the options you have may not always be good. They're usually unmissed by the selling team. Even then, he basically replaced a big chunk of the first 11, because what Holloway left us with was absolute dross and going to be relegated. I don't think anyone would have saved us there.

Erm......we weren't in the bottom 2 when Hurst came, perhaps if he hadn't dumped as many of that clown Holloway's squad we may have stayed up but he did bring in some really shite players and his tactics were crap as well.

He also had a Parslow moment at Carlisle bringing on Waterfall who was involved in Carlisle's equaliser in the last few minutes costing us 2 points.

I've never been his biggest fan and certainly not suggesting we get rid but you have to accept that he was instrumental in us getting relegated.

Quoted from arryarryarry

Erm......we weren't in the bottom 2 when Hurst came, perhaps if he hadn't dumped as many of that clown Holloway's squad we may have stayed up but he did bring in some really shite players and his tactics were crap as well.

He also had a Parslow moment at Carlisle bringing on Waterfall who was involved in Carlisle's equaliser in the last few minutes costing us 2 points.

I've never been his biggest fan and certainly not suggesting we get rid but you have to accept that he was instrumental in us getting relegated.

We wasn't in the bottom 2, but it doesn't mean we wasn't a good shout to go down. It all depends on the run of games.

You're clearly insinuating that Hurst was better to stick with some of the players we had. Who do you think was good that he dropped and would have contributed to saving us?

Secondly, do you know much detail about how they train? How professional they were? Didn't we have a few breaches for covid and pub related stuff? Changing a culture is not easy. If half the team are half-assed in training, others are going to see it and copy it. It says that giving 70% of your effort is fine and accepted. With that, you try getting enough over the games to put points on the board. Do you think our culture was optimal to save us from relegation that season?

Hurst got more out of Clifton, Waterfall and Scannell. Do you think without a change of culture, that would have happened?

Also, did you know Waterfall was going to come on and score an own goal and cost us the game? Who actually knew that would happen? Football manager is really easy in hindsight. The question is, in the same situation, with the same information that he had to hand, with the same financial constraints and existing wage bill would you have done differently? If you wouldn't, it's a bit rich to criticise after the event.