Welcome, Guest.
Please login or register.
Fishy Forum Fishy Boards Non Football › Ukraine War
Moderators: Moderator
Users Browsing Forum
No Members and 12 Guests

Ukraine War

  This thread currently has 21,686 views. Print
46 Pages Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 ... Next All Recommend Thread
Humbercod
February 6, 2022, 4:52pm
Cocktail Drinker
Posts: 1,549
Posts Per Day: 1.17
Reputation: 60.08%
Rep Score: +9 / -9
Approval: -3,487
Gold Stars: 82
Quoted from Maringer

Ultimately, we can't do anything about either of these superpowers as they have us over a barrel. Too much of Europe is reliant on Russian gas for heating and energy and most western countries are reliant on China after foolishly outsourcing all our manufacturing and industry out there to make a quick buck. It would take a serious programme of investment, construction and training to stop our reliance on these two countries. No chance of that occurring any time soon, unfortunately.


Here’s an idea why don’t we knock this Net zero bollox into touch? I know you’ve blocked me and yet still read my messages, so I’d like to say to you, as someone I believe who is well on board with the governments green agenda …you can’t have it both ways!

I listened to a woman on the radio the other day saying that her children miss out on doing their homework when the lights go out! What kind of country have we become when our own people cannot keep the flipping lights on? Is this really 2022? We sit on on approx 100 year worth of coal 50 years of shale gas that we won’t touch because our leaders want to virtue signal how carbon neutral the country is, whilst at the same time importing coal from China and gas from Russia insanity!

We know China and India will be increasing their carbon output massively over the next 20 years no felicitations given, especially when stupid country’s like ours put themselves in their palms of their hands again flipping madness.
Surely it would make more sense to lengthen the net zero timeline use the resources we have whilst the technologies and infrastructure can have time to catch up.

Whilst at parents evening at the back end of last year I got speaking to another parent who was telling me how well his eldest lad was doing 25k a year as a trainee wind turbine technician they even pay for his taxi to the dock and free meals whilst at work, I thought great good for him but I look back now thinking again more green BS jobs subsidised by people like poor Doris who can’t afford to keep her lights on. Up to 25% of your fuel bill according to various reports is green tax I bet the Green Party are well drunk off they have nothing left to fight the Government on.
Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 10 - 453
Maringer
February 6, 2022, 4:52pm
Barley Wine Drinker
Posts: 11,210
Posts Per Day: 1.87
Reputation: 82.93%
Rep Score: +60 / -12
Approval: +16,564
Gold Stars: 185
The population is mostly ethnic Russian in Crimea though, isn't it? Only a small proportion is ethnic Ukrainians. It's all down to the odd decision by Khruschev (himself a Ukrainian) who transferred it to Ukraine back in 1954. OK, it was back in the Soviet era, but people don't forget their nationality that quickly. Lots of people will have grown up with their grandparents/parents telling them they were actually Russian. It certainly wouldn't surprise me at all if they had voted by such a wide margin to become part of Russia, especially given that so much of their economy is reliant on the Russian military.
Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 11 - 453
aldi_01
February 7, 2022, 5:33am

Barley Wine Drinker
Posts: 12,008
Posts Per Day: 2.03
Reputation: 73.73%
Rep Score: +54 / -20
Approval: +5,679
Gold Stars: 473
Quoted from Humbercod


Here’s an idea why don’t we knock this Net zero bollox into touch? I know you’ve blocked me and yet still read my messages, so I’d like to say to you, as someone I believe who is well on board with the governments green agenda …you can’t have it both ways!

I listened to a woman on the radio the other day saying that her children miss out on doing their homework when the lights go out! What kind of country have we become when our own people cannot keep the flipping lights on? Is this really 2022? We sit on on approx 100 year worth of coal 50 years of shale gas that we won’t touch because our leaders want to virtue signal how carbon neutral the country is, whilst at the same time importing coal from China and gas from Russia insanity!

We know China and India will be increasing their carbon output massively over the next 20 years no felicitations given, especially when stupid country’s like ours put themselves in their palms of their hands again flipping madness.
Surely it would make more sense to lengthen the net zero timeline use the resources we have whilst the technologies and infrastructure can have time to catch up.

Whilst at parents evening at the back end of last year I got speaking to another parent who was telling me how well his eldest lad was doing 25k a year as a trainee wind turbine technician they even pay for his taxi to the dock and free meals whilst at work, I thought great good for him but I look back now thinking again more green BS jobs subsidised by people like poor Doris who can’t afford to keep her lights on. Up to 25% of your fuel bill according to various reports is green tax I bet the Green Party are well drunk off they have nothing left to fight the Government on.


You know the mines weren’t shut because of a green agenda don’t ya?

You know the price of energy hasn’t gone up because of a green agenda?


'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 12 - 453
Sandford1981
February 7, 2022, 10:09am
Fine Wine Drinker
Posts: 1,375
Posts Per Day: 0.98
Reputation: 90.8%
Rep Score: +11 / 0
Location: Grimsby
Approval: +2,085
Gold Stars: 59
Even if WW3 does occur we need not worry-it will all be over in a flash!


“I know writers who use subtext and they’re all cowards.” –Garth Marenghi
Logged
Private Message
Reply: 13 - 453
Humbercod
February 7, 2022, 1:45pm
Cocktail Drinker
Posts: 1,549
Posts Per Day: 1.17
Reputation: 60.08%
Rep Score: +9 / -9
Approval: -3,487
Gold Stars: 82
Quoted from aldi_01


You know the mines weren’t shut because of a green agenda don’t ya?

You know the price of energy hasn’t gone up because of a green agenda?


Yes socialist unions not prepared to modernise made the mines financially uncompetitive. Times have changed shale gas and or coal need to be looked at along with localised mini Nuclear reactors we could be up and running in a few years.

You can mention the global markets for the increase but being self sufficient like the yanks thanks to Trump policy’s as seen their energy prices a fraction of wheat we pay! As for the green agenda you may be happy paying hundreds of pounds extra on you’re energy bills, but I can assure you there are millions of people struggling that given the chance wouldn’t pay this ridiculous levy.
Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 14 - 453
KingstonMariner
February 8, 2022, 12:29am
Meths Drinker
Posts: 22,096
Posts Per Day: 6.07
Reputation: 79.33%
Rep Score: +42 / -11
Approval: +23,440
Gold Stars: 218
Quoted from Maringer
The population is mostly ethnic Russian in Crimea though, isn't it? Only a small proportion is ethnic Ukrainians. It's all down to the odd decision by Khruschev (himself a Ukrainian) who transferred it to Ukraine back in 1954. OK, it was back in the Soviet era, but people don't forget their nationality that quickly. Lots of people will have grown up with their grandparents/parents telling them they were actually Russian. It certainly wouldn't surprise me at all if they had voted by such a wide margin to become part of Russia, especially given that so much of their economy is reliant on the Russian military.


It was still a breach of international law generally (I know all the ‘whatabouts’ in response to this) and a breach of their written commitment to Ukraine specifically. Not saying that Russia doesn’t rightly feel peeved st eastern expansion of NATO though.

But you have to ask yourself why the former Eastern Bloc countries and Soviet republics want to join. It ain’t because Russia is a nice cuddly neighbour.

I’m sceptical about this whole recent thing about an invasion though. The photo evidence of increasing military strength in those camps (one 250 km from the border) are not convincing. Most countries have armies near their borders. It’s what they do. It is a nice distraction technique for leaders in trouble. And it doesn’t do sales of F35s any harm.

Having said all that, I don’t trust Putin.


Through the door there came familiar laughter,
I saw your face and heard you call my name.
Oh my friend we're older but no wiser,
For in our hearts the dreams are still the same.
Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 15 - 453
GollyGTFC
February 18, 2022, 7:17am

Whiskey Drinker
Posts: 3,944
Posts Per Day: 0.69
Reputation: 67.2%
Rep Score: +19 / -11
Approval: +5,984
Gold Stars: 356
Russia has only one ally of any merit- China. China wouldn’t give Putin permission to invade Ukraine whilst the Winter Olympics are taking place in Beijing.

So what are we thinking? Will Russia invade during the closing ceremony or will they wait until Monday morning?

The response should be simple. Freeze the assets of the 50 highest profile oligarchs who hold Putin’s stolen wealth, throw Russia out of the SWIFT international payment system, ban Russia from all international sports completely and impose Iran style trade restrictions.

Putin won’t stop at Ukraine. Estonia, Latvia & Lithuania will be next if he gets always with invading Ukraine and imposing a Belarus-style pro-Russian puppet government on the country.
Logged Online
Private Message Skype
Reply: 16 - 453
Humbercod
February 18, 2022, 8:45am
Cocktail Drinker
Posts: 1,549
Posts Per Day: 1.17
Reputation: 60.08%
Rep Score: +9 / -9
Approval: -3,487
Gold Stars: 82
Quoted from GollyGTFC
Russia has only one ally of any merit- China. China wouldn’t give Putin permission to invade Ukraine whilst the Winter Olympics are taking place in Beijing.

So what are we thinking? Will Russia invade during the closing ceremony or will they wait until Monday morning?

The response should be simple. Freeze the assets of the 50 highest profile oligarchs who hold Putin’s stolen wealth, throw Russia out of the SWIFT international payment system, ban Russia from all international sports completely and impose Iran style trade restrictions.

Putin won’t stop at Ukraine. Estonia, Latvia & Lithuania will be next if he gets always with invading Ukraine and imposing a Belarus-style pro-Russian puppet government on the country.


Think you need to stop watching BBC/SKY news.
Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 17 - 453
Humbercod
February 18, 2022, 8:56am
Cocktail Drinker
Posts: 1,549
Posts Per Day: 1.17
Reputation: 60.08%
Rep Score: +9 / -9
Approval: -3,487
Gold Stars: 82
Quoted from KingstonMariner



I’m sceptical about this whole recent thing about an invasion though. The photo evidence of increasing military strength in those camps (one 250 km from the border) are not convincing. Most countries have armies near their borders. It’s what they do. It is a nice distraction technique for leaders in trouble. And it doesn’t do sales of F35s any harm.

Having said all that, I don’t trust Putin,Johnson,Biden,Macron …edited for you 😉


When SKY news were frothing over the satellite images showing the Russian army at the ready, I expected a mass of armoured vehicles, 100s of tanks thousands of soldiers on the border but what the image showed was like a very minor military compound. Yesterday morning I checked the Sky News APP and the headlines were Russia troops to launch attack today 😫
Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 18 - 453
promotion plaice
February 18, 2022, 12:50pm

Moderator
Posts: 19,647
Posts Per Day: 3.85
Reputation: 64.79%
Rep Score: +20 / -13
Location: Cleethorpes
Approval: +17,081
Gold Stars: 199

Putin ups the stakes as he gives the order for Russia to stage massive nuclear exercise on Saturday.

https://www.gbnews.uk/news/put.....r-fears-erupt/228973


When Leeds trainer Les Cocker was once told Norman Hunter had broken a leg, he asked: “Whose is it?”
Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 19 - 453
46 Pages Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 ... Next All Recommend Thread
Print

Fishy Forum Fishy Boards Non Football › Ukraine War

Thread Rating
There is currently no rating for this thread
 

Back to top of page

This is not an official forum of Grimsby Town Football Club, the opinions expressed are those of the individual authors. If you see an offensive post then click "Report" on the relevant post. Posts will be deleted at the discretion of the moderators whose decision is final. Posts should abide by the Forum Rules. IP addresses of contributors together with dates and times of access are stored. The opinions and viewpoints expressed by contributors to The Fishy are their own and not necessarily those of The Fishy. The Fishy makes no claims that information dispersed through this forum is accurate or reliable. Also The Fishy cannot be held liable for any statements made by contributors of The Fishy.