Ukraine War

Interesting discussion on R4 this morning about a no fly zone. Ukrainian MP was asking for it to be put in place and Ben Wallace saying a NFZ would now escalate this into a European war and he wouldn't put British pilots at risk.

But why wasn't a pre-emptive NFZ put in place? It seems on this occasion NATO intelligence was spot on - even Russian battle order plans were known. Justify it on humanitarian grounds - stopping civilians being exposed to lethal air attacks. We know diplomacy doesn't work with the likes of Putin. He uses it tactically only so he can work to his military timetable. What is there to lose with aggressive defence when we know he's coming anyway?

Quoted from Hagrid

i mean Putin is killing innocent Ukrainian citizens and children you flipping idiot

Apparently indiscriminate killing of civilians, including children, is fine. Unless Putin resorts to industrial killing there’s not an issue.

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

Interesting discussion on R4 this morning about a no fly zone. Ukrainian MP was asking for it to be put in place and Ben Wallace saying a NFZ would now escalate this into a European war and he wouldn't put British pilots at risk.

But why wasn't a pre-emptive NFZ put in place? It seems on this occasion NATO intelligence was spot on - even Russian battle order plans were known. Justify it on humanitarian grounds - stopping civilians being exposed to lethal air attacks. We know diplomacy doesn't work with the likes of Putin. He uses it tactically only so he can work to his military timetable. What is there to lose with aggressive defence when we know he's coming anyway?

You would have to wonder what else the NATO allies know of Russia’s plans. Will there be another target once Ukraine is subdued?

Quoted from GollyGTFC

You would have to wonder what else the NATO allies know Russia’s plans. Will there will another target once Ukraine is subdued?

You wonder what all secret services know to some extent. I saw the article about the Victorian throw back withdrawing cash from an account that would’ve ultimately been affected by this…two weeks ago…

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

Interesting discussion on R4 this morning about a no fly zone. Ukrainian MP was asking for it to be put in place and Ben Wallace saying a NFZ would now escalate this into a European war and he wouldn't put British pilots at risk.

But why wasn't a pre-emptive NFZ put in place? It seems on this occasion NATO intelligence was spot on - even Russian battle order plans were known. Justify it on humanitarian grounds - stopping civilians being exposed to lethal air attacks. We know diplomacy doesn't work with the likes of Putin. He uses it tactically only so he can work to his military timetable. What is there to lose with aggressive defence when we know he's coming anyway?

Listened to this interview this morning and couldn't help feel utter pity for the Ukrainian MP who was practically begging for help.  Wallace put his points across well, I thought, even if I'm not a huge fan of him.  But overall it just highlighted that as a country we're very much at the mercy of everyone else, a completely small fish in this pond and we'll follow suit accordingly.

Greater sanctions are definitely needed, it's simply not enough at the minute.  I fear this won't happen as we're a) scared, despite putting on a brave face in public, by Russia and b) dependent on the supply of energy from Russia.  

This is quite an interesting read and hammers home that we're all just puppets in a big production really. https://bywire.news/articles/nato-should-have-let-russia-join-it-when-it-had-the-chance

Thoughts are with those trapped in the conflict.  Some of the videos emerging are absolutely horrific and you can't even begin to imagine the panic levels.

Quoted from diehardmariner

Listened to this interview this morning and couldn't help feel utter pity for the Ukrainian MP who was practically begging for help.  Wallace put his points across well, I thought, even if I'm not a huge fan of him.  But overall it just highlighted that as a country we're very much at the mercy of everyone else, a completely small fish in this pond and we'll follow suit accordingly.

Greater sanctions are definitely needed, it's simply not enough at the minute.  I fear this won't happen as we're a) scared, despite putting on a brave face in public, by Russia and b) dependent on the supply of energy from Russia.  

This is quite an interesting read and hammers home that we're all just puppets in a big production really. https://bywire.news/articles/nato-should-have-let-russia-join-it-when-it-had-the-chance

Thoughts are with those trapped in the conflict.  Some of the videos emerging are absolutely horrific and you can't even begin to imagine the panic levels.

C) have a leading political party accepting huge amounts of russian money…

Quoted from diehardmariner

Listened to this interview this morning and couldn't help feel utter pity for the Ukrainian MP who was practically begging for help.  Wallace put his points across well, I thought, even if I'm not a huge fan of him.  But overall it just highlighted that as a country we're very much at the mercy of everyone else, a completely small fish in this pond and we'll follow suit accordingly.

Greater sanctions are definitely needed, it's simply not enough at the minute.  I fear this won't happen as we're a) scared, despite putting on a brave face in public, by Russia and b) dependent on the supply of energy from Russia.  

This is quite an interesting read and hammers home that we're all just puppets in a big production really. https://bywire.news/articles/nato-should-have-let-russia-join-it-when-it-had-the-chance

Thoughts are with those trapped in the conflict.  Some of the videos emerging are absolutely horrific and you can't even begin to imagine the panic levels.

It's tough for the rest of the world. Most of the world relies heavily on Russia and their closest ally China but I'm sure if Russia enter a NATO state by air or foot then things will ramp up very quickly.

Russia has now been kicked out of this year's Eurovision Song Contest after Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine.

The organisers said Russia's participation would "bring the competition into disrepute".

Shame they didn't kick us out as well to put us out of our misery in the competition.

Quoted from promotion plaice

Russia has now been kicked out of this year's Eurovision Song Contest after Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine.

The organisers said Russia's participation would "bring the competition into disrepute".

Shame they didn't kick us out as well to put us out of our misery in the competition.

Ha - take that you pig-faced fascist - didn't expect that did you. You'll be taking your tanks home now won't you...

Quoted from promotion plaice

Russia has now been kicked out of this year's Eurovision Song Contest after Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine.

The organisers said Russia's participation would "bring the competition into disrepute".

Shame they didn't kick us out as well to put us out of our misery in the competition.

Maybe we could invade Cornwall?