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Maringer
November 23, 2019, 12:04am
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Just to point out, for the umpteenth time that most of the Labour Party policies really wouldn't have looked much out of place in a Tory manifesto any time from the 1950s through to the 1970s. Nationalised utilities? Very normal (as they still are in much of the developed world today). Our railway franchises are operated by national railway companies of other countries. The extremism began with Thatcher and has continued since then. And what has happened in these years?



Why, household debt has increased threefold! A lot of this will be mortgages as the property boom and policy to not build enough houses has taken effect, but unsecured debt is also much higher:



Despite this, for some reason, when there is talk of increasing taxes on the very wealthiest in society to help pay for things or taking back the utilities into public hands, it's seen as some sort of crazy left-wing scheme. I just find it bizarre.
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November 23, 2019, 3:04pm

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Makes me laugh when certain posters make comments about Conservatives, I've never known Grimsby to be any other than a labour stronghold, Wilsons Labour were in government (1974 to 1979 during the 3rd cod war of 1975. I know Icelands hold over NATO helped them get what they wanted but the Labour government of the day left those reliant on the fishing industry in the wind. In fact the Icelandic Government offered the British Government quotas that were almost equal to that being caught—at that time, British fishermen were catching about 130 million tonnes—which would have kept the industry going, but, as part of the agreement, the British Government refused. They are responsible for the decline of this once great Town, take a walk around the areas of town that were affluent and thriving and then come back with what labour have done for this town. Labour are a wolf in sheeps clothing let's best not mention war monger and now middle east peace envoy, set for life Blair.

It think it was a fish worker Lillian Bilocca who was one of the headscarf revolutionaries who campaigned for compensation for fisherman, not a labour MP and it wasn't until 2012 under a coalition government of Conservative and Lib Dems that the fishermen were offered compensation and an apology to fishermen who lost their livelihoods in the 1970s. More than 35 years after the workers lost their jobs, the £1,000 compensation offered to 2,500 fisherman was criticised for being insufficient and excessively delayed  People like, my dad, Grandad and other family relatives and many other fisherman and the like died well before this payment was made, and it wasn't the labour party. Conservatives don't care about anything outisde London and Labour just play on the fact Conservative don't care but have done fcuk all to make life better in the north, they can go fcuk themselves and take Corbyn with them, flipping snakes the lot.

Labour were in government but no compensation given until Conservatives and Lib Dems in 2012.
1974 to 1979
1997 to 2010

2012 - Conservative / Lib Dems offer apology and compensation, why are they apologising for Labours incompetence.


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November 23, 2019, 7:19pm

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Could someone tell me how a 4 day week will not cost more as the Labour party says it will be paid by extra productivity ,,

How does a Doctor , Nurse  Postman, Bus Driver, Shop Worker and numerous other trades increase their productivity ?

Plus they say only the top 5% of earners will pay more tax but they are doing away with the marriage allowance as its unfair to the odd couples so that's a tax rise for most people.


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Productivity in the UK is 20% or more lower than in the better performing countries. In fact, UK productivity has long been pretty poor in comparison to others. This is nothing to do with the hours worked - we do work long hours. The point is that if we can improve our productivity, we can work fewer hours whilst still creating the same amount of output. If you can get the same work done in 35 hours instead of 42, then why not do so and enjoy the additional time you have left over?

How do we improve productivity? If you're not so tired, you work more efficiently. That's an obvious fact, so working fewer hours can help there immediately. Other than that, our investment in technology and training has long been low in comparison to some other countries. Improve that and you should improve productivity. Enough to start a 4 day week? I'd be surprised as it's difficult in many industries (I certainly couldn't do my work in 4 days), but it's a nice aspiration to have. Some businesses are managing it already. Lucky them, I say.
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How can you improve productivity when certain jobs take 2-3 hours to do, by cutting the hours in this type of work is cutting down productivity. I manage around 24 engineers and I know who puts a full shift in and those who don't. It's the sick, lame and lazy ones (not genuine OH cases) who use the unions as a shield to get away with poor performances, I've even got a union rep doing the same. Labours idea doesn't stack up when you have a large amounts of people across the country in various industries who do the bare minimum.


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Quoted from Maringer
  (I certainly couldn't do my work in 4 days), but it's a nice aspiration to have


You could if you spent less time on the Fishy.  



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You could if you spent less time on the Fishy.  



I think we all fall under that Pete  


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I think we all fall under that Pete  


Not me I work 24/7  365 days looking after my wife  


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You probably post more messages on the fishy than anyone else!


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In my defence, I don't post much during the day so I'm not missing too much work time. Don't have a lunch break a few days a week either so I'm due the odd lapse.
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