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Roast Em Bobby
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That's a pretty poor attempt at using diversion tactics to shy away from the truth. The fact the article is 2 years old is utterly irrelevant. It is still impossible for the UK (or any other country) to be raid-roaded into an EU army against their will.

Your obviously paranoid, stupid, ignorant or all three.


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Pro tip: inserting meme gifs into a post doesn't do anything but make it look puerile.

As for the rest of the post, it is, as usual, handwavy projections about something which somebody claims might happen in the future in the event of perfidious politicians voting against their own national interest for an undisclosed reason. All whilst ignoring the fact that we could opt out or veto and if they tried to take the veto away in this regard, then we could consider leaving for a sensible reason.

The fact that you singled out the quote from UKIP as being the only true part is risible.

The daftest point of this is that you're so keen on NATO when it is pretty obvious that the Yanks couldn't give a flying excrement about the alliance, especially with the orange excrement gibbon in chief running the show over there. All they see it as is an opportunityto  extend their own sphere of influence, defence be damned. As KM notes, it was the thoughtless expansionism of NATO into the Baltic states and Eastern Europe which has led to most of the modern tensions with Russia, and you can add in a civil war in the Ukraine into the mix as well.
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Quoted from Maringer
Pro tip: inserting meme gifs into a post doesn't do anything but make it look puerile.

Pro tip  



As for the rest of the post, it is, as usual, handwavy projections about something which somebody claims might happen in the future in the event of perfidious politicians voting against their own national interest for an undisclosed reason. All whilst ignoring the fact that we could opt out or veto and if they tried to take the veto away in this regard, then we could consider leaving for a sensible reason.

pro tip, we joined a common market not political union, did this political union happen with our permission, no, did it happen over night, no. It all happened over many years of back door deals and people turning a blind eye to what was going on, did we vote for it no.
Projections are based on what is being voiced by EU leaders who have voiced things before and they have come to fruition, like I said in a previous post, time will tell as it has with the EU army you and many other cry baby remainers said would never happen.


The fact that you singled out the quote from UKIP as being the only true part is risible.

Everything UKIP has made public knowledge about how the EU operates has exposed the EU for what it is and where it is heading. Also if you listen to other parties within the EU it isn't just UKIP exposing what is going on and what is planned.

The daftest point of this is that you're so keen on NATO when it is pretty obvious that the Yanks couldn't give a flying excrement about the alliance, especially with the orange excrement gibbon in chief running the show over there. All they see it as is an opportunityto  extend their own sphere of influence, defence be damned. As KM notes, it was the thoughtless expansionism of NATO into the Baltic states and Eastern Europe which has led to most of the modern tensions with Russia, and you can add in a civil war in the Ukraine into the mix as well.


No doubt it show cases US military and helps their sales like it does for the UK.

Yes, lets blame NATO and the yanks far more too it and far more political, pro tip, read The constitution of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea.



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That's a pretty poor attempt at using diversion tactics to shy away from the truth. The fact the article is 2 years old is utterly irrelevant. It is still impossible for the UK (or any other country) to be raid-roaded into an EU army against their will.

Your obviously paranoid, stupid, ignorant or all three.




The report is nonsense, option to leave will be gone with the first puff of air from a PM wanting to make a name for themselves aka peace envoy Blair, all it will take is someone like verhofstadt or Junker and our politicians with the breaking strain of a kit kat will give in and the next thing you know is we are knee deep in it as mission creep has set in as it always does.

Truth, did the UK join a common market or political union, does the ECJ have jurisdiction over UK law, who voted for that, who gave the EU the power for that.

I'll take Paranoid, you can keep stupid and ignorant.


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I could prove you wrong on every point you make, but i'd just be wasting my time. Your clearly a nut-job.


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I could prove you wrong on every point you make, but i'd just be wasting my time. Your clearly a nut-job.


You haven't proven any points but given dated so called facts from June 2016. So it would seem we are both a bit nutty



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You haven't proven any points but given dated so called facts from June 2016. So it would seem we are both a bit nutty



Except they're not dated because nothing has changed. We have the right to veto things right up until we leave.


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Well well well, how many times has May gone back on her word ?

She said no snap election,

She had said no PM would let N Ireland be different to the rest of the UK,

Gone back on both of those,

She said over one hundred times we are leaving with or without a deal on March 29th,

Now she says it can be extended.

I can not take her serious anymore,

Mind you Corbyne is not better  he says we should have another referendum



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Question

If we have another referendum and the leave wins again what happens then ? and if we have another referendum and the remain wins would there be another referendum after that ? (best out of 3)

How would another vote (which is looking more likely now)   work? I’m puzzled


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Question

If we have another referendum and the leave wins again what happens then ? and if we have another referendum and the remain wins would there be another referendum after that ? (best out of 3)

How would another vote (which is looking more likely now)   work? I’m puzzled


The only thing that’s certain is that nothing is certain at the moment. Seemingly nobody but May and the Yes men that surround her think her deal is a good deal. The fact her Government can’t come to an agreement with the EU means to me that the only realistic option is to put all the options back out to the public by means of a vote. Personally i hope that the shitshow of the last 2 and a half years has shown many that leaving the EU is a bad idea but I’m not holding out much hope.
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