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grimsby pete
March 19, 2019, 10:35pm

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One thing we can all agree on whether we are cons or lab leaver or remainer is  May has balls everything up regarding Brexit and being in charge of her own party,

She hopes she will get out of this mess by forcing another peoples vote,

Then she will crawl back into the same place that Cameron disapeared into,

Effing useless the lot of them and that goes for all of them in parliment whatever party they represent.


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The last thing she wants is another referendum. She's gambled all her capitol within in the tory party on that deal and is hell bent on getting it through, however many commons votes it takes.

That deal was the best the EU could offer her within her self imposed red lines of wanting tariff free access to the EU markets without the obligations (free movement, not being able to do our own trade deals, ECJ etc), while also representing Ireland's interests. Had she not spent the last two and a half years dancing to the tune of a minority of MPs and the right wing press barons, she would have got some version of soft Brexit through by now.

It's just a shame Corbyn, even this late in the day, won't unambiguously follow through with the conference motion and demand a second referendum. Two stubborn ideologues who will not compromise and build consensus just when we need it.


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March 20, 2019, 11:38am
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She is utterly desperate to get her deal through and leave at the end of the month. Why couldn't she show a modicum of flexibility over her red lines and bring together Labour MP's and her own moderates rather than cow-towing to the nutters of the DUP and the ERG. What a flipping combination that is to be setting the agenda for the future of the whole country.
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Quoted from jock dock tower
It takes a very special kind of idiot to make the complete and utter balls up of not just trying to govern at Westminster, but to also split your party asunder by your total incompetence. Take a bow Theresa May.

To only be able to govern by giving the biggest bunch of bigots Westminster has ever seen the odd £billion or two, is bad enough, but to then be beholden to them for the whole future of our country really does display a complete and utter fuckwittery hitherto unknown in British politics. Let's not forget the DUP are the party who still say it's not a women's right to choose thereby making abortion illegal in N. Ireland. They believe homosexuality to be a sin, a god number of them are creationists, and they have para military links - and through May's inability to work politically with anybody else bar bigots they are, in effect, the de facto government as nothing gets by without their endorsement.

Through her inability to listen to others she has created a situation where the UK are, quite rightly, the laughing stock of Europe - and speaking to Aussie friends - the world as well. The Houses of Parliament used to be looked on as the mother of democracy, and was what many countries looked to base their own democracies on. Now it's a byword for abject failure and derision. How the f*ck did we ever get to this?



Did it start when "Sir Nick Clegg" came to the rescue of Cameron in 2010..... that allowed "Dave" to get his referendum plan together before he f*cked up and f*cked off to leave us with all this dismay
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Rumours abounding that she might be doing 'a Cameron' and announcing her plans to resign outside number 10 tonight.

Clusterfuck.



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Let's hope it makes it to No1



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That statement tonight.

Seriously, the women has lost it. Blaming everyone but herself for the situation we, as a country find ourselves in. I genuinely hope there isn’t another vote on her deal, the maniac doesn’t deserve it.

And just for balance, Corbyn ain’t much better, either.
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Her deal is rubbish. If we end up with it it will be worst of all possible outcomes.


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It's a rubbish deal. Better than no deal though, especially with this bunch of clowns in charge to run the country right into the ground in the aftermath.

But, if you take into account the terms of the Good Friday Agreement, it's almost the only deal which could be made if you aren't remaining in the customs union. If the Tories weren't reliant on the DUP to get anything done, you could envisage them bunging a border in the Irish Sea (and the Northern Irish in general would be happy with this - the Scots less so, obviously). As it stands the DUP are blocking everything with the ERGers using their approach as an excuse to try and get No Deal for their own devices.

May has completely lost the plot, of course.
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grimsby pete
March 20, 2019, 11:15pm

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I can not see her being PM for much longer the woman is deluded.


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