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BlackBoots
February 26, 2012, 3:34pm
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I assume you have written to the Trust telling them not to send you any further information as you are now 'abstaining from all Trust issues'.

Shame you still seem hell bent on spouting your opinions on here though so which one is it?
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February 26, 2012, 4:22pm
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I assume you have written to the Trust telling them not to send you any further information as you are now 'abstaining from all Trust issues'.

Glad you pointed this out so I can clarify.

When I said "I'm abstaining on all trust issues I believe may affect the wider interests of fans/the clubs future until it's membership is a lot more representative of the fanbase.", I meant for any issue like this one that is potentially huge.

Maybe I should have said:

"on all trust issues that are potentially crucial to the wider interests of fans/the clubs future until it's membership is a lot more representative of the fanbase."

As for what proposals the trust puts forward in the future, I'll have to consider them individually when the time comes.
Hopefully by then there will be a lot more fans on board.

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Shame you still seem hell bent on spouting your opinions on here though so which one is it?

What I've already said ?

Sorry you don't like me having a honest opinion but I'm not going round in circles trying to justify it.

I've made my choice on this issue, now it's up to others to do the same.
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For what it's worth I agree with 80's about this vote not being representative of the whole fan base just more the 300 who joined...

If the Trust really was acting in the best interests of all fans (which it states it is, or at least some of the board members do) then why wasn't this vote opened up to the whole fan base? Anyway just my view...


"I am surprised that Bright pratt like you fails to get a grasp of the queens English been as your allways pulling up anyone who fails to follow your thoughts and if they don't give you verbal pats on the back get real and grow up this is a free speech site.UTMM".(Cleefish, 2012)       
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For what it's worth I agree with 80's about this vote not being representative of the whole fan base just more the 300 who joined...

If the Trust really was acting in the best interests of all fans (which it states it is, or at least some of the board members do) then why wasn't this vote opened up to the whole fan base? Anyway just my view...


Because the vote is asking what should happen to shares owned by the trust. Only members of the trust can decide this. I don't understand why YOU don't understand this? You've had plenty of chance to join, everyone knew the Trust had become major shareholders in the club, and we'd been pulicisisng that a big decision was to be made and to have a say you shpuld join us. If you chose not to then you dont have a complaint. End of.
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For what it's worth I agree with 80's about this vote not being representative of the whole fan base just more the 300 who joined...

If the Trust really was acting in the best interests of all fans (which it states it is, or at least some of the board members do) then why wasn't this vote opened up to the whole fan base? Anyway just my view...


Pass me a wall please!!!!
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Because the vote is asking what should happen to shares owned by the trust. Only members of the trust can decide this. I don't understand why YOU don't understand this? You've had plenty of chance to join, everyone knew the Trust had become major shareholders in the club, and we'd been pulicisisng that a big decision was to be made and to have a say you shpuld join us. If you chose not to then you dont have a complaint. End of.


I didn't realise you would be meddling with the whole future of the club, thought your forte would be more about who was flipping the burgers on a match day... But I guess I was wrong and you felt the need to steam in two footed and make some sort of great statement, maybe try and take some glory by stating you are part of the reason why we still have Hearn?

I didn't join because I believe that you should prove yourselves capable as a Trust board...

Your last statement sums up things nicely though, I appreciate that...


"I am surprised that Bright pratt like you fails to get a grasp of the queens English been as your allways pulling up anyone who fails to follow your thoughts and if they don't give you verbal pats on the back get real and grow up this is a free speech site.UTMM".(Cleefish, 2012)       
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Pass me a wall please!!!!


  There you go.  Anything else I can get you, sir?  (or madam)






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Pass me a wall please!!!!


If I could, I would gladly get you one...

Sorry if my view are wrong, it's just how I see it... I apologise for being thick and I hope you can find it within yourself to forgive me for having my opinion?


"I am surprised that Bright pratt like you fails to get a grasp of the queens English been as your allways pulling up anyone who fails to follow your thoughts and if they don't give you verbal pats on the back get real and grow up this is a free speech site.UTMM".(Cleefish, 2012)       
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I didn't realise you would be meddling with the whole future of the club, thought your forte would be more about who was flipping the burgers on a match day... But I guess I was wrong and you felt the need to steam in two footed and make some sort of great statement, maybe try and take some glory by stating you are part of the reason why we still have Hearn?

I didn't join because I believe that you should prove yourselves capable as a Trust board...

Your last statement sums up things nicely though, I appreciate that...


Sorry but exactly what did you expect in all seriousness. Overnight the Trust become the third largest shareholder in GTFC. That sort of put us in the position of being involved. Do you think we'd be having any of these debates if Mike Parker had kept his shares? Given the aforementioned gentleman's decision not to be involved in anything to do with Grimsby Town in the future I'd say that created the need for the Mariners Trust to "meddle" as you so eloquently put it.
It's incredible really. Here we have someone accusing the Trust of steaming in two footed yet others believe we have kept things far too close to our chests. Damned if we do damned if we don't.


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Glad you pointed this out so I can clarify.

When I said "I'm abstaining on all trust issues I believe may affect the wider interests of fans/the clubs future until it's membership is a lot more representative of the fanbase.", I meant for any issue like this one that is potentially huge.

Maybe I should have said:

"on all trust issues that are potentially crucial to the wider interests of fans/the clubs future until it's membership is a lot more representative of the fanbase."

As for what proposals the trust puts forward in the future, I'll have to consider them individually when the time comes.
Hopefully by then there will be a lot more fans on board.




You could argue that given the Trust's position there will be a lot more decisions to be considered that could have a major effect on the fan base....what then? More abstaining??

Abstention is and always has been a dereliction of duty.



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