The Share Issue statement from the OS last Friday

Quoted from voice of reason

Fair point, I accept logistically it is a challenge, not something I really thought of but i'm sure there could be a way of sorting this...

Suggest one then - a way of ensuring every 'fan' has a vote and a way of administering it. I completely agree that all fans should be able to voice their opinion and engage in debate on here. A few posters on here displayed an attitude of 'You're not a member so it's nothing to do with you' and I disagree with them strongly. However, it would be impossible to poll every 'fan' and saying 'I'm sure there could be a way of sorting this....' doesn't really offer an alternative does it?

Quoted from Chris

Wrawbs, we are volunteers fella, we all have professional and private lives just like the rest of them on here, and we will make little errors in wording from time to time. If people want to critisise for it then let them. We'll just keep doing our best untill some of them get off their arses and helps make things better.

I have lots of things I could be doing on Thursday evening (my wife and young children rather enjoy seeing me from time to time) but instead, we'll be locked away in a room discussing how we can help make this football club better for everyone of its supporters, whether they are members or not. No we're not being forced to do it, and yes we're able to walk away anytime we like, but doing so wouldnt help anyone. So let them nit pick about wording and we'll concentrate on our aims for the future of our club instead of just moaning about it.

I believe you are a Trust member I don't know if your are on the board but that statement alone makes you look pretty pathetic. Considering you are asking members to actually pay to join your organisation and hopefully join the board of Grimsby Town Football Club I would have thought at the very least you would have had someone with half a brain to oversee any public statements that are made on the trust's behalf.  

That above is a criticism, my original comments were mainly to clarify the trust's comments.

Quoted from 1054

I would guess that he is being sarcastic.  This clearly went way over your head though. . . . maybe because you are (or pretending to be) bloody thick as pig sh1t!!!!

Oh dear God you really are a complete nincompoop aren't you, I knew he was being sarcastic he had just failed to grasp the point I was making.

Still I am now obviously of the same opinion about you that many others on here have. Thanks for clarifying that for me.

Could we perhaps have a reasonable debate again instead of name calling? Thanks.

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

Suggest one then - a way of ensuring every 'fan' has a vote and a way of administering it. I completely agree that all fans should be able to voice their opinion and engage in debate on here. A few posters on here displayed an attitude of 'You're not a member so it's nothing to do with you' and I disagree with them strongly. However, it would be impossible to poll every 'fan' and saying 'I'm sure there could be a way of sorting this....' doesn't really offer an alternative does it?

Maybe people just register their details with the club/Trust without paying or joining and they receive a voting slip, pretty much the same way members are getting their slips?

I don't know, like I said I didn't consider the logistics of it all...

Quoted from arryarryarry

Still I am now obviously of the same opinion about you that many others on here have.

PMSL. . . . Maybe you should set up some kind of poll that could be attached to the voting slip on the trust's shares!  Fu(ktard!!!

Quoted from voice of reason

Maybe people just register their details with the club/Trust without paying or joining and they receive a voting slip, pretty much the same way members are getting their slips?

I don't know, like I said I didn't consider the logistics of it all...

So could anybody register - if I was a malicious Scunthorpe fan (with far too much time on my hands)could I sign up and vote in what I perceived to be the negative way for GTFC? I would have thought considering the logistics was worth a go before claiming the current way is the wrong way. Like I say though, I completely agree that you have the same right to an opinion on this as any Trust member but logistically there is no way the vote can be extended beyond members to every 'fan'.

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

So could anybody register - if I was a malicious Scunthorpe fan (with far too much time on my hands)could I sign up and vote in what I perceived to be the negative way for GTFC? I would have thought considering the logistics was worth a go before claiming the current way is the wrong way. Like I say though, I completely agree that you have the same right to an opinion on this as any Trust member but logistically there is no way the vote can be extended beyond members to every 'fan'.

Really, you think people would really try and sabotage the vote? Who's to say the vote can't be swayed by members of the trust who have other agendas? Maybe people are pro Fenty and would vote for what is best for him, or anti Fenty and vote in a way to spite him...

I agree with you though, I should have thought about the logistics side of things first, however i'm still sure there would be a way around it... Didn't the club have some sort of ballot on the new ground some years ago? How did they do this?

Quoted from BlackBoots

The cosy 'Guardian readers' view of a trust is club ownership. In practice it will not work imo, supporter representation, yes, ownership no.

I have beeen reading how FC United are in serious trouble as are Wimbledon because of the lack of money!

In what way are they in trouble? They look spectacularly successful considering the length of time they've been going.

Anyway, what's your view. The suck up to the rich Daily Mail view? The suck up to Rupert Murdoch News Int view?

Go on tugging your forelock and the rich guy might throw you some treats.

Quoted from Chris

Wrawbs, we are volunteers fella, we all have professional and private lives just like the rest of them on here, and we will make little errors in wording from time to time. If people want to critisise for it then let them. We'll just keep doing our best untill some of them get off their arses and helps make things better.

I have lots of things I could be doing on Thursday evening (my wife and young children rather enjoy seeing me from time to time) but instead, we'll be locked away in a room discussing how we can help make this football club better for everyone of its supporters, whether they are members or not. No we're not being forced to do it, and yes we're able to walk away anytime we like, but doing so wouldnt help anyone. So let them nit pick about wording and we'll concentrate on our aims for the future of our club instead of just moaning about it.

Chris.   I think you are banging your head against a brick wall.  John too is a volunteer, has a professional life, private life and pays for the privilege.  Yes.  He too can just walk away but chooses not to.  I wish he would at times for the abuse he gets.  I'm also pleased he doesn't because I had genuine fears for the very existence of GTFC some months ago when John said he wouldn't continue funding the club because of obvious reasons.  I went to the first couple of Trust get togethers prior to the relaunch and considered putting myself forward to be a Board member.  I was advised at the time that It wouldn't be a good Idea due to being John's brother. Perhaps a blessing seeing what hassle you and The Trust get for the love of it!

We really do need to move on from this.  I think even if this place on the Board hadn't come to light the vote would still have been a YES judging the feedback from earlier threads. The same few banging the negative drum on here are maybe not Trust Members so can't vote anyway.  Most probably sent the returns back prior too.  We shall see!  

Anyway Chris.  Some things are left un said.  Not easy I know.  Chill a bit and lets just see what the 5th March brings.

UTM!