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You could almost take it if there was some acknowledgement of just how deep in the shít we are. Artell sounded exactly like Hurst in that interview, going on about underlying metrics and our great away form (1 win in 6). Even Tondeur pulled him up when he said nobody was moaning when we scored 5 against Notts County, pointing out that we had also managed to concede 5. That’s how bad it is when even John Tondeur has to make that point.

We are in fųcking shambles here. He talks about how all the players & coaches have a voice and are expected to contribute and communicate - is there not one single person then, from almost 30 squad members, Shaun Pearson & Ben Davies, Steve Croudson, the analysts, the owners or the kitman who will stand up and say there is a fundamental problem?

If not, then they either don’t understand or, worse, don’t care about the fact we’re a gnat’s cøck away from going out the league AGAIN. It’s 9pts now, but there’s 16 games still to play. We lose two & Forest Green win two, which could hypothetically be the case this time next week, and I’m not sure any of the absolute fannies in this squad have the spine for the fight they’ll end up in.


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After 30 odd minutes a Stockport player went down and they called on the physio (I recall they’ve done that a few times when we’ve played them) Challoner called his players over as a team and talked them through some stuff.

Artell called one player in and kept pointing at a bit of A4 the rest of the team stood there in their own doing a double tea pot or looking at the sky for divine intervention.

Sooner or later the players will lose belief in what Artell is trying to do then we’re in even deeper sh1t.


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After 30 odd minutes a Stockport player went down and they called on the physio (I recall they’ve done that a few times when we’ve played them) Challoner called his players over as a team and talked them through some stuff.

Artell called one player in and kept pointing at a bit of A4 the rest of the team stood there in their own doing a double tea pot or looking at the sky for divine intervention.

Sooner or later the players will lose belief in what Artell is trying to do then we’re in even deeper sh1t.


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You could almost take it if there was some acknowledgement of just how deep in the shít we are. Artell sounded exactly like Hurst in that interview, going on about underlying metrics and our great away form (1 win in 6). Even Tondeur pulled him up when he said nobody was moaning when we scored 5 against Notts County, pointing out that we had also managed to concede 5. That’s how bad it is when even John Tondeur has to make that point.

We are in fųcking shambles here. He talks about how all the players & coaches have a voice and are expected to contribute and communicate - is there not one single person then, from almost 30 squad members, Shaun Pearson & Ben Davies, Steve Croudson, the analysts, the owners or the kitman who will stand up and say there is a fundamental problem?

If not, then they either don’t understand or, worse, don’t care about the fact we’re a gnat’s cøck away from going out the league AGAIN. It’s 9pts now, but there’s 16 games still to play. We lose two & Forest Green win two, which could hypothetically be the case this time next week, and I’m not sure any of the absolute fannies in this squad have the spine for the fight they’ll end up in.


Don't always agree with you but that's spot on for me.
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I think it's deeper than that. He really believes in this way of playing. He was our first choice, we may have spent ages appointing him but we approached him as the owners specifically wanted to play this way. It was a requirement of working here, on the job spec, and he was a devotee of it, we literally hand picked him. So for him to be sacked it effectively means the owners abandoning their philosophy and returning to more "industrial" football. It would be quite a volte-face.


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About this time? They're a group of lads going through the motions and hopeful it ends.


Just posted about this on the “just back” thread.
Why was rose messing around with their injured player and yapping to another one? Surely as a captain he should be taking on some responsibility of getting the other players together and going over some of what’s happened in the game already.
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Thankfully Shaun and Ben are still here , ditch D.A. and let them ssee out the season . They took 5 points from a possible 9 in their three games in charge . Given a transfer window as well , I wonder where we could have been now ? Pass the Paracetamol,  I feel a Holloway coming on .. U.T.M.


Aren't Shaun and Ben an integral part of the coaching team as they were in Hurst's coaching team, if so do they not share some responsibility?
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About this time? They're a group of lads going through the motions and hopeful it ends.


Indeed it was.

Artell took over a side leaking goals & under threat from relegation the first job surely was to fix the defence & make us harder to beat as thats root cause of our poor results

He’s failed to address this as a priority and that I think just shows that maybe he’s just not the right man.


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He is not the right man & in a dogfight his tactics are a reminder of ian holloway
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He is not the right man & in a dogfight his tactics are a reminder of ian holloway


Even starting to sound like him as it's everybody's fault we lose but his.



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