Artell Out  (triple merged)

Regarding what you say in the last paragraph Toontown - that is exactly correct.
BUT
I can remember in the 90's watching two teenage Alex fullbacks and a teenage centre half passing the ball across the back between themselves and along with everyone else pooing myself and expecting an interception.  Often, that was exactly what happened.  This way of playing wasnt even fashionable then.
Some of those lads had been there since they were 6 years old.
The Alex still struggled at the bottom just managing to avoid getting dumped out for years.
This is what your Management have signed up for.  Thats why I said elsewhere that you need patience (and two pairs of underpants).
Eventually, although the fear never goes away, the occasional spell of Brazil style passing footbal by other teenagers makes you feel a bit better about it.
It still happens today at Gresty Road and will continue -because as soon as they reach a required standard they have to be sold on.
I dont know what you can do about it.
If they were any good would they be playing for Grimbo?

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Been thinking about this for a bit, under Buckley we possibly played the best football in the clubs post war history for a sustained period.

I can’t remember 2 CHs stood on the edge of the 6 yard box at goal kicks waiting for the keeper to tip tap it about with them.

Playing out I get “IF” you have the talent to do it, but why must it be so contrived. It’s almost like the new set piece.

In all 3 Buckley spells, the rules at goal kicks were different to the rule we have today. The ball had to leave the 18 yard box so short goal kicks were even more susceptible to a press. It's a shame that Buckley isn't the expert summariser on RH anymore, I would love to know what he thinks of what Artell is serving up.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

In all 3 Buckley spells, the rules at goal kicks were different to the rule we have today. The ball had to leave the 18 yard box so short goal kicks were even more susceptible to a press. It's a shame that Buckley isn't the expert summariser on RH anymore, I would love to know what he thinks of what Artell is serving up.

That’s a fair point, but I think my point was more about playing out being contrived and like a set piece.

Playing out from the back didn't cost us yesterday. Just not being able to do the basics all over the pitch did for us.

That and Stockport just being better in every single position, and having better subs too.

Quoted from ginnywings

Playing out from the back didn't cost us yesterday. Just not being able to do the basics all over the pitch did for us.

That and Stockport just being better in every single position, and having better subs too.

It was too similar to the Tranmere game, no effort, no inspiration, no leaders, no team spirit, no passion, etc.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

In all 3 Buckley spells, the rules at goal kicks were different to the rule we have today. The ball had to leave the 18 yard box so short goal kicks were even more susceptible to a press. It's a shame that Buckley isn't the expert summariser on RH anymore, I would love to know what he thinks of what Artell is serving up.

If I remember Buckley's third spell even he gave up playing the Grimsby Way and played a more pragmatic approach. The game has changed in many ways since the late 80s and 90s. Most teams played 4-4-2 and there was just 1 substitute. There have been rule changes, players are fitter, there are lots more substitutions and tactics have improved. Squads change much more rapidly as well.

Thursday just gone marked 20 years to the day since a humiliating 6-0 defeat at Oldham Athletic. Which of course means Friday just gone marked 20 years to the day since Paul Groves was sacked as Grimsby Town manager.

I bring it up as Groves' "permenant" successor (albeit on a contract to the end of the season) would be Nicky Law. His spell as Town manager has gone down in infamy and he's widely regarded as the worst manager in the club's history.

Nicky Law managed just 12 league games as Grimsby manager. His record was as follows...

Played 12
Won 3 (25%)
Drew 2
Lost 7
GD -10 (-0.833 per game)
Pts 11 (0.917 per game)

David Artell will have his 12th league game as Head Coach on Tuesday (if he isn't sacked tomorrow) and his record after 11 matches is...

Played 11
Won 2 (18%)
Drew 4
Lost 5
GD -7 (-0.636 per game)
Pts 10 (0.909 per game)

That is the level of failure we are dealing with.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Thursday just gone marked 20 years to the day since a humiliating 6-0 defeat at Oldham Athletic. Which of course means Friday just gone marked 20 years to the day since Paul Groves was sacked as Grimsby Town manager.

I bring it up as Groves' "permenant" successor (albeit on a contract to the end of the season) would be Nicky Law. His spell as Town manager has gone down in infamy and he's widely regarded as the worst manager in the club's history.

Nicky Law managed just 12 league games as Grimsby manager. His record was as follows...

Played 12
Won 3 (25%)
Drew 2
Lost 7
GD -10 (-0.833 per game)
Pts 11 (0.917 per game)

David Artell will have his 12th league game as Head Coach on Tuesday (if he isn't sacked tomorrow) and his record after 11 matches is...

Played 11
Won 2 (18%)
Drew 4
Lost 5
GD -7 (-0.636 per game)
Pts 10 (0.909 per game)

That is the level of failure we are dealing with.

Bloody Hell 😬

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Thursday just gone marked 20 years to the day since a humiliating 6-0 defeat at Oldham Athletic. Which of course means Friday just gone marked 20 years to the day since Paul Groves was sacked as Grimsby Town manager.

I bring it up as Groves' "permenant" successor (albeit on a contract to the end of the season) would be Nicky Law. His spell as Town manager has gone down in infamy and he's widely regarded as the worst manager in the club's history.

Nicky Law managed just 12 league games as Grimsby manager. His record was as follows...

Played 12
Won 3 (25%)
Drew 2
Lost 7
GD -10 (-0.833 per game)
Pts 11 (0.917 per game)

David Artell will have his 12th league game as Head Coach on Tuesday (if he isn't sacked tomorrow) and his record after 11 matches is...

Played 11
Won 2 (18%)
Drew 4
Lost 5
GD -7 (-0.636 per game)
Pts 10 (0.909 per game)

That is the level of failure we are dealing with.

I would love it if RH put that statistic to him after the game on Tuesday if we don't win.

So his 13th game is against Doncaster who saw off his predecessor? Not auspicious omens...