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To be honest I feel for Artell. From what I gather he was Stockwood and Pettit’s target man for the post. Both reinforced this when the appointment was made. Again, if I remember right, Kristine (SLO) also confirmed this when talking to Humberside post Artell’s appointment.
It also became clear, through interviews with Stockwood, that HE (Stockwood) had a style of play and identity that he himself preferred and had discussed this with Artell during the process of recruitment.
Basically Artell was head hunted to carry out a preferred brief by the owners. He is now trying to carry this out with the players he inherited and those that were available to him in the January window. The players were not performing under Hurst, who couldn’t get a tune out of them and few are capable of adapting to Artell’s instructions. Basically the players are just not capable at this level. That is not the fault of Artell. For all those who say he should just change his style to adapt
to the players strengths, what are those strengths? Hurst couldn’t get them to gel and play his style and neither can Artell. This isn’t a criticism of the players, they’re just not suited to each other and the requirements for this level.
The abuse Artell is receiving after such a short time in the post, on all social media platforms is, to be honest, abhorrent and the speed at which “supporters” are turning on players after conceding a goal, against top of the league opposition, says more about Grimsby’s current following than anything happening on the pitch, or in the dressing room.
Artell stressed from day one that the task he has been given cannot be completed quickly, and would take many months. He told us, it wouldn’t be a pretty sight at times. He shouldn’t have to tell supporters of a football club that this is the case, that Rome wasn’t built in a day, but at GTFC it appears he does, again and again and again.
We have won 1 in 9 games (n that was against an unbelievably abysmal salford) and are shipping goals for fun.not asking him to ditch his principles, just be pragmatic, get us safe n then go for it |
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| Mayaman |
| February 11, 2024, 4:20am |
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To be honest I feel for Artell. From what I gather he was Stockwood and Pettit’s target man for the post. Both reinforced this when the appointment was made. Again, if I remember right, Kristine (SLO) also confirmed this when talking to Humberside post Artell’s appointment.
It also became clear, through interviews with Stockwood, that HE (Stockwood) had a style of play and identity that he himself preferred and had discussed this with Artell during the process of recruitment.
Basically Artell was head hunted to carry out a preferred brief by the owners. He is now trying to carry this out with the players he inherited and those that were available to him in the January window. The players were not performing under Hurst, who couldn’t get a tune out of them and few are capable of adapting to Artell’s instructions. Basically the players are just not capable at this level. That is not the fault of Artell. For all those who say he should just change his style to adapt
to the players strengths, what are those strengths? Hurst couldn’t get them to gel and play his style and neither can Artell. This isn’t a criticism of the players, they’re just not suited to each other and the requirements for this level.
The abuse Artell is receiving after such a short time in the post, on all social media platforms is, to be honest, abhorrent and the speed at which “supporters” are turning on players after conceding a goal, against top of the league opposition, says more about Grimsby’s current following than anything happening on the pitch, or in the dressing room.
Artell stressed from day one that the task he has been given cannot be completed quickly, and would take many months. He told us, it wouldn’t be a pretty sight at times. He shouldn’t have to tell supporters of a football club that this is the case, that Rome wasn’t built in a day, but at GTFC it appears he does, again and again and again.
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| Mappers |
| February 11, 2024, 7:48am |
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We have won 1 in 9 games (n that was against an unbelievably abysmal salford) and are shipping goals for fun.not asking him to ditch his principles, just be pragmatic, get us safe n then go for it
Starting to worry Stockwood & Pettit are out of their depth on the footballing side, wanting to implement 'the Grimsby way ' midway through a season , when changing a playing style u turn is nigh on impossible to implement . Saying that 'the grimsby way ' the last 10 years has been lower end league 2 to NL on a loop so they are closer to it than they think . |
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| ginnywings |
| February 11, 2024, 8:45am |
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Again, not read the thread but Artell can fook off back to Crewe for me. Didn't like him before he became our manager, but gave him the benefit of the doubt.
We look nothing like an organised team and are shipping goals for fun.
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| 123614 |
| February 11, 2024, 8:47am |
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You should rename yourself black and white ostrich because you’re burying your head in the sand
And you should name yourself Negative Mariner, |
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| Mallyner |
| February 11, 2024, 8:48am |
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I feel rather than trying to play out from the back, our keeper in particular should launch the balls well down the touchlines in the opponents half.
What can happen then?
1 The defender wins the ball in the air and heads it forward, which then becomes the more winnable ball for our players facing it.
2 The defender tries to head the ball back to his keeper, who has had to leave his goal to retrieve it, or it is snapped up by a predator like Rose. Or alternately in doing so, he heads it out for a corner.
3 The defender heads it out, which gives us a throw in, in a very advantageous position.
I feel this is what we must do from now on.
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| BraStrap |
| February 11, 2024, 8:52am |
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The only reason we want to play this way is because Stockwood read it in a book. Marx sounded good on paper. Both terrible in practice.
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| Yoda |
| February 11, 2024, 8:55am |
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Artell has lost the fans and the players, this will only end one way.
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| 123614 |
| February 11, 2024, 8:59am |
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We have won 1 in 9 games (n that was against an unbelievably abysmal salford) and are shipping goals for fun.not asking him to ditch his principles, just be pragmatic, get us safe n then go for it
It's not DA who needs a pep talk, it's players who play out from the back and pass directly to an opposition player, like Cartwright yesterday. And don't say that he was playing to instructions, as he should have enough common sense to see that pass wasn't on, and hoof it instead of giving a goal away. Also Clifton was stood 2 yards from the ball when the quick free kick was taken, he should have immediately stood in front of the ball to stop the quick pass, heaven knows even Sunday League players know to do this. And if we leave players unmarked on the penalty spot to have a free header and score, how is that, and the other 2 goals DA's fault? Those are individual errors that you see in every game, in every League, blaming the manager is just wrong, people in every job make mistakes, it appears that we don't have enough of those higher quality players that make less mistakes than others. |
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| 123614 |
| February 11, 2024, 8:59am |
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Artell has lost the fans and the players, this will only end one way.
Rubbish once again Yoda. |
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