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Just give us some idea how they are going to deal with current situation,it's called leadership.


"We think it's silly that fans are having a sulk so soon over the new manager, and are obviously sticking by him. We would have avoided a statement as it's usually perceived as a kiss of death". It's pretty obvious what their sentiment is and I don't see why it needs to be spelled out for you. They'll be talking to the manager about transfer plans etc. and not panicking fans because their focus is and should be what is done right now...

Leadership is also doing what you feel is right, and not what folks on social media are demanding they do. It would be pretty weak leadership to just be responding to this. A waste of time.
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Just give us some idea how they are going to deal with current situation,it's called leadership.


There's nothing they can say that will go down well. They're not putting any more money in, so it'd just be sound bites and jargon. People lapped it up when there was goodwill, but there isn't in this situation. If JS spouts his usual pretentious shite to show us how clever he is, it'll go down like a lead balloon. The best thing they can do is stay quiet and sign us some players that have more than 13 minutes of football league experience.
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Artell is going nowhere any time soon
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If he didn't come to an arrangement on his contract then when he went to manage another club his contract with us ceases and we stop paying him. Alternatively if he has done a deal with us he is free to take that money and get another job in management. I don't know how much we would have had to pay him in such a deal but a fair way short of 100 percent or else why bother. It can still work out enormously beneficial for both parties as would be the case now he has another job.


I think he's highly likely to have taken a deal with us. We would owe him 100% of the rest of his contract from being sacked to the end of the term. It would be short of 100% otherwise the club wouldn't agree to it, but if it's a lot less, Hurst wouldn't agree to it, so I'd still expect you're paying 60-80% of the contract, so you're still paying multiple people's salaries.

If we sacked off Artell as well, and that number is 75%, we are paying 150% of a salary (Hurst and Artell, without even mentioning Doig), plus a new manager, so 250% what we would usually pay on management fees. It costs the club money to sack managers, and ultimately, our squad needs investment.
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January 30, 2024, 7:17pm

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Yes nothing says leadership like issuing a statement after a loss to say “this could turn into an existential crisis”.

Very normal behaviour.

It is not just after a loss though is it? it after a whole series of adverse feedback loops.It is called contingency planning.


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The roof and other items were ones that were kicked down the street by the previous owner. That job in particular was hidden from them too. His penny pinching is lingering round the club like a post kebab fart, still creating issues like we see today.


Didn't they have a survey done?
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Didn't they have a survey done?


Stop asking sensible questions.


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The roof and other items were ones that were kicked down the street by the previous owner. That job in particular was hidden from them too. His penny pinching is lingering round the club like a post kebab fart, still creating issues like we see today.


And since those days, all we have done is get a couple of new brushes, but we are still covering up the cracks with whitewash.

Tell me, has our league position improved?


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Didn't they have a survey done?


Do you think a commercial property investor and ex property lawyer would take on Blundell Park without having a survey?
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Do you think a commercial property investor and ex property lawyer would take on Blundell Park without having a survey?


Plenty of cracks to paper over.
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