Artell Out  (triple merged)

Quoted from TownSNAFU5

I do not pay much attention to what a manager says (DA).  I do care what he does and doesn’t do.

Eg, not sure what Wood has shown in training to justify a start. The team set-up was clearly not working after 5 minutes.  It took until the 87th min to make real changes.  We struggled badly against an average team at home.

An equal concern is that other poor teams, or poorer teams are picking up points.  Colchester and Salford with away wins. Sutton got their second consecutive away point.  Including a draw at Mansfield.

At least FGR had the decency to lose and Donney have a defence as bad as ours.  Our safety cushion does not look very secure.  Our decent goal-difference is probably our strongest asset.  Very sad.

All the more reason with starting with a more experienced midfield yesterday.  Or changing it when it is very clear to all fans that it was not working.  He didn’t.

Some results and performances have been encouraging recently.  Not sustained though.  DA said that yesterday was nowhere near an acceptable standard. He also said that the performance was worse than the 6-1 defeat to Walsall.  

Ok, but you are the manager!  

Quoted from pontoonlew

Just to recap on the past 7 days of The Fishy then;

- We shouldn’t buy young players and sell them on, it makes us look weak and we should abandon that proven model immediately

- We should sack a manager after 6 weeks and before he’s been able to bring his own players in

- Playing with an identity is not the way to go, instead we should revert to being ‘tough to beat’ and get a short term fix in to address that

- Long term plan? Long term plans don’t work, better to turn into blind panic after a few bad games, when did long term plans ever work?


I do despair at times, we wonder why our town is miles behind everyone else in almost every aspect. We say we want positive change, yet we push back on that change at almost every possible opportunity.

Quoted from davmariner

Good point on Wood. Granted, he’s only started one game but he looked out of his depth and his delivery and corners extremely poor. He was playing as if he had all the time and space in the world, but unfortunately you don’t get that in English football.

Quoted from pontoonlew

Just to recap on the past 7 days of The Fishy then;

- We shouldn’t buy young players and sell them on, it makes us look weak and we should abandon that proven model immediately

- We should sack a manager after 6 weeks and before he’s been able to bring his own players in

- Playing with an identity is not the way to go, instead we should revert to being ‘tough to beat’ and get a short term fix in to address that

- Long term plan? Long term plans don’t work, better to turn into blind panic after a few bad games, when did long term plans ever work?


I do despair at times, we wonder why our town is miles behind everyone else in almost every aspect. We say we want positive change, yet we push back on that change at almost every possible opportunity.

Quoted from pen penfras

Whilst we are totally shite and Artell is the manager, how much is he to blame?

The squad is crap, only 2 signings were an improvement and one of those has gone. Hurst signed those players, but I'm not sure it's all his fault. He never signed shite like this before we had a head of recruitment and board pushing for us to play the 'Grimsby way'.

How many teams can you name that look in danger of relegation, struggle at the back but not particularly struggling to score go on to hire a manager with the intent of playing more expansive football? I can't think of a single instance where this has worked, it's always bring in a Spam Allardyce or Sean Dyche type to save you.

Artell's interviews worried me since day 1. I think he's incoherent, but these statements of how he'll improve the players etc worry me more. I think it's arrogant and players don't respond well to it. I think he's trying to get them to do too much outside their comfort zone. But that's the mandate he was brought in for. I don't for one second think Artell is the right man for this job. But I don't blame the scorpion for being a scorpion. I blame the people who thought a scorpion was what we needed.

Further to that, we've got a chairman who doesn't want to be here, or at least chairman, and is complaining about having to put money in. We've heard for 3 years about a new training ground, now we're waiting on legal stuff and have no way to fund it. It feels like the new stadium saga all over again. And somehow we spend a lot more money to be just as shite. The only thing we had going for us was that we're sustainable, we don't even have that anymore.

Quoted from pontoonlew

Just to recap on the past 7 days of The Fishy then;

- We shouldn’t buy young players and sell them on, it makes us look weak and we should abandon that proven model immediately

- We should sack a manager after 6 weeks and before he’s been able to bring his own players in

- Playing with an identity is not the way to go, instead we should revert to being ‘tough to beat’ and get a short term fix in to address that

- Long term plan? Long term plans don’t work, better to turn into blind panic after a few bad games, when did long term plans ever work?


I do despair at times, we wonder why our town is miles behind everyone else in almost every aspect. We say we want positive change, yet we push back on that change at almost every possible opportunity.

Quoted from Blundellite

Brilliant post this town is full of moaners and  the change in attitudes/opinions after a game of footy within the fanbase is astounding

Quoted from jamesgtfc

Do you continue with the long-term plan if relegation to non-league AGAIN starts to look like a real possibility, or do you tweak the long-term plan to make sure the club is still in the EFL next season?