Artell Out  (triple merged)

Quoted from 1mickylyons

I'm hearing mutterings he's lost the dressing room already hence players are going because they all take the urine out ofvhim behind his back.Just shows how sh1t modern football is the players have all the power and its always the fans that suffer

To be fair I would imagine players in certain positions bring told to play a way they can't and that invites pressure and mistakes are probably hating it and feeling drunk off.  I know I am cringing when for the umpteenth time we play a goal kick to the 2 CBs who pass amongst themselves then to mullarkey who is pressured by the oppo and plays it back to a CB and the boos begin. I doubt these are the players ideal way of playing and they probably feel they are being hung out to dry a bit in front of thousands.

Quoted from toontown

To be fair I would imagine players in certain positions bring told to play a way they can't and that invites pressure and mistakes are probably hating it and feeling drunk off.  I know I am cringing when for the umpteenth time we play a goal kick to the 2 CBs who pass amongst themselves then to mullarkey who is pressured by the oppo and plays it back to a CB and the boos begin. I doubt these are the players ideal way of playing and they probably feel they are being hung out to dry a bit in front of thousands.

I agree with what you say. The CBs get the grief but many including myself have pointed out with the exception of Rose nobody wanted the ball yesterday.I  don't know the answer but id drop Eisa or play him as a 10 behind/off Rose.Amos and Glennon on the left Efete and Vernam on the right Gav Clifton in the middle .Maher picks himself probablyThame alongside and Cartwright in goal.

Quoted from Alan Buckley

Also been told he’s lost the dressing room. Another reason why Conteh asked to leave asap. That was a couple of days before the match yesterday and they certainly played true to that yesterday.

I think I remember reading on the Crewe forum he lost their dressing room as well before he left.

I was surprised to see 4 town players not in the matchday squad drive off together about 20 mins before KO against County. Waterfall and Hunt, I forget who else. Probably totally normal and explainable but something I’ve not seen before

Quoted from 1mickylyons

I agree with what you say. The CBs get the grief but many including myself have pointed out with the exception of Rose nobody wanted the ball yesterday.I  don't know the answer but id drop Eisa or play him as a 10 behind/off Rose.Amos and Glennon on the left Efete and Vernam on the right Gav Clifton in the middle .Maher picks himself probablyThame alongside and Cartwright in goal.

I would be happy to see that tried but no way that side can play the Artell way, so we would have to change from playing out from the back and passing through midfield. Efete can't do it and a Clifton and holohan midfield battles and provides energy and drive but doesn't retain the ball well. Would Artell be willing to swallow his pride and do that?

Not that the 100 percent Artell way is working either at the moment usually, if teams counter it.

Quoted from arryarryarry

I think I remember reading on the Crewe forum he lost their dressing room as well before he left.

It went pear rapidly and they didn't win in 16 games.  

Quoted from 1mickylyons

You seem generally well informed did you hear the same story that it was a spat with senior players and the way one in particular was singled out because he disagreed with DA about set pieces?

Other than Gav & Rose have we actually got any proper  “senior” players? We’ve got a few with games under their belt but we lack “senior pros” at the minute, sounds like just a different term but behaviour wise it’s massive

Just wanna put it out there that a lost dressing room and drunk off a few players that have underperformed and deserve a few home truths are slightly different things.

Not doubting what your saying guys, just important to think about imo as we do hear ’lost the players’ a lot in football

Quoted from 1mickylyons

You seem generally well informed did you hear the same story that it was a spat with senior players and the way one in particular was singled out because he disagreed with DA about set pieces?

Has said senior player left the club (Waterfall) or never getting started (Holohan)?

Losing the dressing room is unproven.  However, if there is ANY substance to these statements then it is very bad because a) we are in a relegation fight and b) it is so early in his time as our manager.

Then you get into the area of the Club taking a long time to appoint the right manager.