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The players have stopped playing for Artell.
He has to go.
This post speaks volumes to me ...what about the rest of you ? |
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| arryarryarry |
| February 18, 2024, 3:17pm |
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That's just balderdash. How can you forget the way he treated the fans, the club and the people who he worked with.
Comparing the new owners to Fenty is night and day. The way the club is run has been dragged into the 21st century, there are no worries about shady motives to do with the ground and criminals. The Chairman regularly answers any questions from media. And so much more.
It's a hard thing to do and success rarely happens in a straight line.
They've spent pots of money improving the ground and training facilities, the team regularly stays over and prepares properly for away days, the players and players families are looked after.
Add to that we've had a promotion and an FA Cup quarter final in the three years they've been in charge.
This is their first relegation battle, Fenty lost 4 of those. I don't agree with their decision, but the two regimes are not even similar. I'm off the opinion that club owners shouldn't be lauded and worshipped, they don't kick the balls, it's usually an ego thing and a rich man's toy. And to be fair to our owners I think there's a bit of that. I find Stockwood a bit of a bore and feel like he loves the sound of his own voice.
But I'd take that and have him in a heartbeat over the previous regime. Do I read his self indulgent guardian articles? No
Do I believe that him and Andrew are trying to improve the club? Yes
They probably don't want to come forward in public but you may find some staff who are no longer with the club being unhappy with the way they were treated. Are we better off than when they were here? As for the way the club is currently being run, we now have more backroom staff than you can shake a stick at and look where it has taken us to, staring at a big hole called non league. |
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| February 18, 2024, 3:18pm |
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We all know that we are in the S**t. What we can’t work out is why and what to do about it.
Any suggestion to return to Fentyism should be resisted at all costs.
If there was an honest frank exchange of views by players and management after the game, good. So long as improvements come along starting Saturday. Wholesale winging and bickering achieves nothing, and may even make things worse.
The team will have my support next weekend, as I’m sure many others will give. Let’s hope it brings a smile to our faces. Two wins in next two games isn’t a season, but the 6 points gained would make one hell of a difference to the mood music.
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| The Caterham Mariner |
| February 18, 2024, 3:24pm |
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If only Stockwood had written for the Daily Mail, all this could’ve been avoided.
Mr Stockwood with all your statistics theory Tell me please how many Grimsby fans read the Guardian or what is the readership in Grimsby area? IT'S your fans going through the turnstiles put cash in the club tills, at present watching poor football dwindling fanbase. Oh yes I read "The Times" even though it takes me all day to read it LOL!! You gotta laugh at the moment or you will cry. UTM |
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| February 18, 2024, 3:32pm |
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Artell gets vote of confidence Tweet 1759184951314915455 will appear here...
What does “accepting responsibility” actually mean or more importantly look like? If you say “responsibility” then you have to create some form of change on the back of it don’t you? To hit the magic 50 points we need 1.4 PPG under Artell it’s been 8.3PPG (I think) that would require a swing of 41% the players just don’t have it in them. Each time you lose the required PPG goes up until only wins will do & eventually the sand runs out. Both JS & AP are Town barmy, they must be to do what they’ve done/doing but if we start next season in the NL that’s a horrible responsibility to bear. Personally I think if we don’t best FGR they’ll sack Artell, that would leave 13 games which would still be a massive challenge. |
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| arryarryarry |
| February 18, 2024, 3:34pm |
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Yoda, you don't understand football do you,..
The contract could be 125 years but its the termination period that's the import factor.
Listened to Gary Rowett, Ainsworth and Sherwood discussing this exact issue and they said most managerial appointments will have a 6 month termination written into their contracts, to protect the club but give the manager some assurance that if it goes mammaries up he's not left in the excrement financially
As you say, it depends on the contract so there may not be a clause in it so we could be responsible for paying up his full contract. |
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| February 18, 2024, 3:34pm |
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Mr Stockwood with all your statistics theory
Tell me please how many Grimsby fans read the Guardian or what is the readership in Grimsby area?
IT'S your fans going through the turnstiles put cash in the club tills, at present watching poor football dwindling fanbase.
Oh yes I read "The Times" even though it takes me all day to read it LOL!!
You gotta laugh at the moment or you will cry.
UTM
I mean, what does any of that have to do with anything? |
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| February 18, 2024, 3:39pm |
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This post speaks volumes to me ...what about the rest of you ?
I'd hope it isn't true but if it is then the players must go. Unfortunately they're all here till season's end and Artell has just got to hope enough points can be scraped together in the next ten weeks or so to survive. Then in the summer he can put together a squad who have more professional pride. |
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| February 18, 2024, 3:43pm |
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I'd hope it isn't true but if it is then the players must go. Unfortunately they're all here till season's end and Artell has just got to hope enough points can be scraped together in the next ten weeks or so to survive. Then in the summer he can put together a squad who have more professional pride.
I don’t think it’s as simple as that. Players will talk to their agents who will talk to their other players and, as difficult as it is already to attract players, it will become harder. |
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| February 18, 2024, 3:45pm |
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We all know that we are in the S**t. What we can’t work out is why and what to do about it.
Any suggestion to return to Fentyism should be resisted at all costs.
If there was an honest frank exchange of views by players and management after the game, good. So long as improvements come along starting Saturday. Wholesale winging and bickering achieves nothing, and may even make things worse.
The team will have my support next weekend, as I’m sure many others will give. Let’s hope it brings a smile to our faces. Two wins in next two games isn’t a season, but the 6 points gained would make one hell of a difference to the mood music.
It's simple why we are in the excrement. Hurst signed some crap players with some of the FA Cup money. Then he had a poor spell with the data saying he had to go. Then we dithered in getting a replacement eventually giving the job to someone who had been out of work for ages. Then this new manager decided to play a way that our players couldn't do, so signed some more players that have turned out to be more crap than what Hurst signed and we are now getting dicked each game. |
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