To the Owners (merged)

Quoted from HerveJosse

If there is a clause that says there is no compo if relegated then we are stuck with him until the end of the season so I hope not

Why? Explain that.
It’s not correct. We’re not stuck with him. Any cost involved in paying him off will be significantly less than the revenue we would lose if we were relegated. Again.
Getting rid and getting someone else won’t guarantee safety of course; it’s a gamble, but the writing is on the wall and has been for a few weeks. Not making the call isn’t really a decision. It’s a self con. You can’t just keep hoping for the best and ignoring the evidence and walking into the abyss.

Quoted from Yoda

Maybe that’s the issue he might have a clause in his contract he can be sacked if relegated.
Otherwise they have to pay him 2 years of his contract probably 250k

If we get relegated we lose all of the Premier League solidarity payment (£650,000+ per season) and receive half of the EFL TV money for 2 seasons as parachite payments (around £275,000 lost for the first 2 seasons and then all gone after that).

To think allowing DA to oversee a relegation would somehow save us money overall is completely wrong.

Quoted from pen penfras

I'm sure at the fan's forum they claimed commercial revenue was up 70%. It's another statement that contradicts what's in front of us, but I guess we'll see when the accounts are imminently released.

I don't really see those all as being the biggest red flags, but they do show that we haven't really moved forwards in that department despite hiring more staff to work in it.

It's alright preaching these statistics like commercial income is up 70%, but what constitutes commercial income? My guess is that they are counting ticket sales. Surely myenergi (who are going through a second round of large redundancies it appears) aren't paying significantly more than Young's for much less? Young's got front of shirt, back of shirt, shorts, stand naming rights, a good number of corporate tickets and discount off ticket prices for their staff.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

It's alright preaching these statistics like commercial income is up 70%, but what constitutes commercial income? My guess is that they are counting ticket sales. Surely myenergi (who are going through a second round of large redundancies it appears) aren't paying significantly more than Young's for much less? Young's got front of shirt, back of shirt, shorts, stand naming rights, a good number of corporate tickets and discount off ticket prices for their staff.

Commercial income does not include ticket sales.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

It's alright preaching these statistics like commercial income is up 70%, but what constitutes commercial income? My guess is that they are counting ticket sales. Surely myenergi (who are going through a second round of large redundancies it appears) aren't paying significantly more than Young's for much less? Young's got front of shirt, back of shirt, shorts, stand naming rights, a good number of corporate tickets and discount off ticket prices for their staff.

Commercial income is likely to get better if the product is better. Currently, we’re playing excrement football in a excrement ground in a excrement area where the streets are full of dog excrement.

It’s not a great situation but it’s the uncomfortable reality.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

If we get relegated we lose all of the Premier League solidarity payment (£650,000+ per season) and receive half of the EFL TV money for 2 seasons as parachite payments (around £275,000 lost for the first 2 seasons and then all gone after that).

To think allowing DA to oversee a relegation would somehow save us money overall is completely wrong.

It’s not as simple as that though is it they could sack him pay the compo and still get relegated . With this set of players that remains a strong possibility .
They could keep him scrape half a dozen more points and rely on the bottom two failing to get enough points to overhaul us .
The spreadsheets will be working overtime

Quoted from jamesgtfc

It's alright preaching these statistics like commercial income is up 70%, but what constitutes commercial income? My guess is that they are counting ticket sales. Surely myenergi (who are going through a second round of large redundancies it appears) aren't paying significantly more than Young's for much less? Young's got front of shirt, back of shirt, shorts, stand naming rights, a good number of corporate tickets and discount off ticket prices for their staff.

My assumption is they're putting something else in that bucket that used to go in a different one. But it's hard to tell because they've changed so much in how the accounts are reported.

Quoted from headingly_mariner

Commercial income does not include ticket sales.

What constitutes commercial income, because as others have said earlier in this thread, it doesn't make sense when you look around. I suppose we've sold out kits on the opening day two years on the bounce. I would like to see a breakdown of our commercial income statistics because stand naming rights have gone down 100%.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

If we get relegated we lose all of the Premier League solidarity payment (£650,000+ per season) and receive half of the EFL TV money for 2 seasons as parachite payments (around £275,000 lost for the first 2 seasons and then all gone after that).

To think allowing DA to oversee a relegation would somehow save us money overall is completely wrong.

It’s not as simple as that though is it they coukd sack him pay the compo and still get relegated . With this set of clubs layers that remains a strong possibility .
They could keep him scrape half a dozen more points and rely on the bottom two failing to get enough points to overhaul us .
The spreadsheets will be working overtime

Quoted from pen penfras

My assumption is they're putting something else in that bucket that used to go in a different one. But it's hard to tell because they've changed so much in how the accounts are reported.

When the accounts are published this week or next the only figure that really matters is how much the owners have put into the club. If it turns out that all that has happened is Fentys loan of £1.5m has been replaced by a similar one owed to 1878 Partners then the owners will have been ‘ unlucky’ that this came to light at such a toxic time.