Hurst out   yes out

Quoted from MarinerWY

Are you taking the urine? Genuinely, whatever happens on the pitch we are so much better off with Stockwood and Petit than Fenty.

You are being selective with your examples. I'd say 3 things which are huge examples of how much things have improved:

1. The communication with fans. Open, on various platforms (Humberside, DN35 podcast, at the games, OS)
2. The apprenticeship/training opportunity in data with a job guarantee for ppl from North East Lincs who complete it. Can anyone imagine Fenty doing that?!
3. The exagerrated 'pricey' (its not, its just better quality) food and drinks at games also come with the Family Fanzone, one of the most innovative and enjoyable additions to BP I can remember
4. We're applying to be a b-corp. Statement of intent to make the club more about community and social good.

Fair enough, get disgruntled with Hurst - I disagree but that's fine. But starting to turn on the new owners?! intercourse me, football fans beggar belief at times.

No MarinerWY I’m not taking the urine.
I’m seeing a big disconnect between the aims of Stockwood and Petit and the reality on the ground. Yesterday I was able to take a leak in spacious, clean warm toilets. I couldn’t understand why a pint in a London football club is cheaper than a pint in one of the most deprived areas in the country. I didn’t need a second mortgage to buy a coffee and a pie and queued for less than 5 minutes.

I saw Stockwood and Debbie on a few occasions when we were winning games, but not over the last few weeks. Correct me if I’m wrong but the fanszone was already in the plans before the new owners arrived and was not funded by them. BCorp, how can a club that really has prehistoric facilities and overcharges in one of the most deprived wards in the country ever deserve to be given BCorp, unless the Chairman of said club is on the board of BCorp?

Quoted from MuddyWaters

What investment are we having by the way? There was a decent amount of money in the bank when 1878 took over and the gate receipts must be way over budget.

How much? Have you been privy to the accounts for the year ending 31/5/21which haven’t been published yet?

Always makes me chuckle when people assume investment means cash…

Quoted from KingstonMariner

How much? Have you been privy to the accounts for the year ending 31/5/21which haven’t been published yet?

I think JS stated  on the radio Kingston that the previous board had managed the finances well, however I really don't think it a positive to have had largeish sums of money in the bank when we were getting flushed down the non league toilet last season.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

What investment are we having by the way? There was a decent amount of money in the bank when 1878 took over and the gate receipts must be way over budget.

I've seen first hand the work that is going on at the ground and off site at Cheapside and also the work that desperately needs doing. Years and years of neglect are coming home to roost and it's going to be a very expensive fix. Then there is the investment in a new training ground.

Yes, investment in the team is important, but they need somewhere to train and a ground to play in.

Didn't take long for people to start dissing the new owners.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

What investment are we having by the way? There was a decent amount of money in the bank when 1878 took over and the gate receipts must be way over budget.

Bit of a soft question really that now isn't it?...
Training ground- upgraded with new equipment, pitch and staff.
BP- upgraded, pitch sorted.
Staff - kitman, chefs, groundsman, masseurs, analysts.
So that little lot will have emptied whatever was left in the kitty by honest John and will have needed the new board to put their hands in their pockets and top funds up, which they duly have

Quoted from KingstonMariner

How much? Have you been privy to the accounts for the year ending 31/5/21which haven’t been published yet?

No I haven't. I just remember what was said by JS when they took over.

Isn't the money left in the club owed to JF anyway? All the money he 'invested', he's getting back, so not really investment is it?

He even claimed he is till investing in the club when he last appeared on here a few weeks back.

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Bit of a soft question really that now isn't it?...
Training ground- upgraded with new equipment, pitch and staff.
BP- upgraded, pitch sorted.
Staff - kitman, chefs, groundsman, masseurs, analysts.
So that little lot will have emptied whatever was left in the kitty by honest John and will have needed the new board to put their hands in their pockets and top funds up, which they duly have

Fair enough - I'm sure you've got the numbers worked out for the increased gate receipts too so I'll take you at your word.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

What investment are we having by the way? There was a decent amount of money in the bank when 1878 took over and the gate receipts must be way over budget.

JS said that there was money in the bank but that money sounded like it was working capitol rather than capex. The new owners may not have gone out and spunked £250K on a new player and committed to paying said player an unsustainable salary but they are responsible for some positive change in a club that has been held back by negativity for years. Money is available for a new striker that's been said by JS on many occasions it's just that we haven't been able to attract one.

Improved pitch, Cheapside upgraded, expanded back room staff new training ground project on the cards is all backing the manager. As far as BP is concerned you can't polish a turd but I do agree a lick of paints in the toilets and the tea bar in the lower actually being able to serve basic tea and coffee (they had no milk a couple of weeks ago) would make  a bit of a difference.    

So why am I talking about the owners on a thread about the manager? Simple, they stand for long term sustainable change which though unpopular with many posters on here is what the club needs rather than people coming in and throwing money at it and their values and strategy won't lead to any managerial change for a good while yet.

That said fail to get into the play offs and yes I think the question should be seriously considered, not because we're the mighty Grimsby Town but because as there is one automatic place then a play off spot is an attainable objective, the worry is that these are 9 clubs including us who are pushing for 7 places.

Why would we swap the manager now?  The likelihood of a new manager coming in and us then winning the league with this set of players is in theory possible but anyone who has a realistic bone in their body knows it's not going to happen. So new manager comes in gets us into the play off's, if Hurst gets us there isn't that the same thing?

Personally Hurst like every manager looks like he's made some mistakes in set up and selection but also I think we've lost sight of the fact he's asked some players to do a job and quite simply a number of them haven't done this at crucial points in games and we've paid the price.