Brexit deal agreed

Quoted from Maringer

Interesting if correct (I don't have time to check), but I don't think Humbo has really thought his point through.

European companies whose exports to the UK have fallen due to Brexit won't have had similar problems with their exports to other EU countries. One of their markets has been affected, but not the major one (for most of these companies).

UK companies, on the other hand, have had their exports to 27 countries badly affected.

Which is a higher number, 1 or 27?

Hopefully in time even the EU fanatics can accept that we imported far too much stuff we didn’t really need or would do better making for ourselves, we had a trade balance before joining the bloc which soon collapsed after joining and surprise surprise we are now seeing this imbalance improving significantly!

https://www.niesr.ac.uk/public.....outlook-box-analysis

Just think that whilst our trade exports around the world continue to rise including with certain EU countries, we also see an ever increasing number of new trade deals. Yet one of the EU’s biggest trading partners has shrunk 25% this is huge and some would say (including me) this arrogance is well deserved.

https://www.export.org.uk/news.....rts-report-finds.htm

Quoted from Humbercod

Hopefully in time even the EU fanatics can accept that we imported far too much stuff we didn’t really need or would do better making for ourselves, we had a trade balance before joining the bloc which soon collapsed after joining and surprise surprise we are now seeing this imbalance improving significantly!

https://www.niesr.ac.uk/public.....outlook-box-analysis

Just think that whilst our trade exports around the world continue to rise including with certain EU countries, we also see an ever increasing number of new trade deals. Yet one of the EU’s biggest trading partners has shrunk 25% this is huge and some would say (including me) this arrogance is well deserved.

https://www.export.org.uk/news.....rts-report-finds.htm

Yeah, the shift in trade balance was all because of the EU and definitely not because Thatcher destroyed our industry and replaced it with a largely service economy.

From Humbo's NIESR link:

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A plausible reason for these developments is that the Brexit vote led to a sharp sterling depreciation, making the UK significantly more competitive while crimping domestic demand.

To simplify, the value of Sterling fell because the markets thought our future prospects were much poorer were following Brexit. This made imports more expensive so we spent less on them. One way of doing things, I suppose.

I'm also not sure the analysis of averaging 2020 and 2021 to come up with a £10 billion figure makes much sense. Brexit didn't begin until 2021 and the barriers to trade (which have shafted our EU business) have only been around since then. Yes, the pandemic was on in 2020, but trading terms were entirely different then to 2021 and now so I can't see the logic in averaging it out. The NIESR are normally on the ball, but that doesn't make sense to me. I suspect the deficit will remain very high during 2022 due to the difficulties in exporting.

As Golly noted, all our manufacturing was sold off decades ago and there hasn't been any concerted push to rebuild since Brexit. It would take decades more to build it up again even if there was the necessary government support (and there isn't).

Shock,horror.
Victorian Dad admitting "self harm"

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/rees-mogg-brexit-checks-self-harm_uk_626ac1e2e4b050c90f3daff0

Any comments from the two local non entities??

https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/news/grimsby-news/border-control-posts-built-immingham-4848776

Quoted from Stadium

Shock,horror.
Victorian Dad admitting "self harm"

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/rees-mogg-brexit-checks-self-harm_uk_626ac1e2e4b050c90f3daff0

Any comments from the two local non entities??

https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/news/grimsby-news/border-control-posts-built-immingham-4848776

Local MPs celebrating costs to both the tax payer and industry. Unbelievable.
The delaying of the rules is blatantly to reduce the cost impact but it’s also a reflection on the following..   Despite  Boris saying “f**k business and Gove saying business needs to be ready and if not it’s their fault , the government still do not have the infrastructure or staff to implement the rules.  
What a shambles .
The government have issued a list of benefits into the parliamentary  library and.one is genuinely stated as blue passports. Fact.

Reece Mogg being interviewed in a Tory party meet and greet claims a benefit of Brexit is we can work towards reducing the cost of declarations of goods imported from the EU with a view to abolishing them .
The new declarations are totally due to Brexit so he’s claiming a benefit is the ability to reduce an added cost directly due to Brexit. As for abolishing declarations are we just importing without knowing what’s in each container? That would be interesting as we would have no idea what’s being imported from the eu or the rest of the world and any tariffs would be meaningless .
Here we are with. nearly seven years for Boris and Co.to have some ideas on benefits and there are still none.  
Brexit was tax avoidance and to allow the Tory party a villain to blame for their years of enabling theft and incompetence.

The new levelling up fund is a fraction of the money cut from the Grimsby areas budgets over the last decade and voters lap it up as great news.  Anyone who is on an average or low wage and votes Tory must be mad or have a very nasty case of Stockholm syndrome.

Quoted from Jackal

Anyone who is on an average or low wage and votes Tory must be mad or have a very nasty case of Stockholm syndrome.

Or just plain thick.

Quoted from mariner91

Or just plain thick.

Sad, bitter and a bit twisted maybe but definitely Labour 🙄

Quoted from mariner91

Or just plain thick.

Oh I wouldn’t go that far,  as a former ( years ago) Tory voter myself.

Through my business I got closer to the powers that be in government and realised they aren’t working for the voters they’re working for a select few. The fact that over 60% of MPs are chosen by just two offices in London then parachuted into a constituency shows who’s making the choices and it’s not the voters. You are told who you can vote for.

The bias media also has a lot to answer for.  The owner of the Daily Mail for instance. He was born here, lives in Wiltshire and his father is English. His father however, later took up residency in France so that his son who now owns the mail group could declare non domicile status to avoid U.K. tax.
The offshore trust which owns the mail group is also based offshore to avoid U.K. tax and its sole beneficiary is yes you guessed it Lord Harmsworth the son.
The Mail group claim they pay U.K. tax and indeed they do but they fail to inform everyone it’s mostly PAYE,  NI from their staff and business rates with very little tax on profits. The family has avoided hundreds of millions in tax this way. Remember that when their headlines complain about how generous benefits are or benefit cheats.

Another tax avoiding similar business is JCB again owned by the family trust in the Caribbean to avoid U.K. tax.  
The mail and JCB pushed for Brexit. JCB said it would help their exports to the rest of the world.  Well their exports were already booming in China and India. So much so in fact they built factories  in China and India.  That didn’t create many jobs or tax revenue in the U.K. did it!  Where’s the Brexit benefit?

When you know the set ups of these people you realise just why they throw so much support and money at the Tory party and it’s to protect the status quo.
The large number of  Prime Ministers coming from Eaton School isn’t a coincidence folks.

Reece Mogg’s  investment company moved to Ireland just in case over Brexit and to benefit from a cheaper tax regime where others such as Google Amazon, Starbucks etc are also registered to avoid U.K. tax.
Not only that but the money Mogg avoids paying in tax along with his investors cash in invested mostly outside of the U.K. in such places as China and India.  Why would he want free trade I wonder?.  Nothing to see here and certainly no hard import restrictions to worry about if a deal is done.  Great for the workers of the world but not so great if you work in the U.K.

People in Russia believe what they want to believe and it’s re-enforced by the media they are fed but as we know it’s not the truth. . 85% of the media both national and local ( yes including Grimsby live) in this country is controlled by just a handful of organisations, all of which benefit from out of date relaxed tax rules.

Brexit was a con. I hope your tax rises don’t hurt too much everyone.  Well obviously not quite everyone needs to worry.

Oh and just for the record Boris before he became a minister was paid £60k a year by JCB for consultancy services. There was no record of him doing any work.
David Davis was on £20k a year but he had to turn up to eight meetings a year.

Quoted from mariner91

Or just plain thick.

Epitome of thick - the DUP; Boris in pythonesque parrot sketch style denies there is a border down the Irish sea in his stunningly creative Brexit deal to move a line on a map, and they fell for it. They backed Brexit when it was blatantly obvious it would accelerate the impetus towards a united Ireland, and surprise surprise, here we are with Sinn Fein streets ahead in the election. The Republic is a very different country now from when "home rule means Rome rule" applied, it is a more socially liberal country than the UK now - it may take a good few years yet but there is momentum towards unification. That is all on the Tories and the incompetent DUP. The majority of English people don't give shite mind...