Brexit deal agreed

Leaving the worlds largest free trading bloc always struck me as a strange way to increase trade.

The EU will look after it's members first and we are no longer a member.

Over promised and under delivered would be my summation so far. Sadly, I can't see that changing for the good any time soon.

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A year on from the end of the transition period, 49% of voters disapprove of how the government has handled Brexit, compared to 27% who approve.

26% say Brexit has gone worse than they expected, compared to 14% who think it has gone better. 44% say it's gone as expected.

What were the 14% expecting?

It's early days right or wrong, yes it's an interview a while ago but has valid points from both sides.

Mogg has nothing and has added nothing since that time in terms of actually outlining and proving the tangible economic benefits of brexit. In my opinion James O’Brien, who is generally right about everything, destroys him.

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It's early days right or wrong, yes it's an interview a while ago but has valid points from both sides.

Valid points from one side as far as I can see. Usual waffle and bullsh!t from Mogg, delivered in the most condescending and disinterested of tones.

How anyone can look at him and Boris Johnson and think yes, they are the people I want governing my life and my country, is astonishing to me.

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Valid points from one side as far as I can see. Usual waffle and bullsh!t from Mogg, delivered in the most condescending and disinterested of tones.

How anyone can look at him and Boris Johnson and think yes, they are the people I want governing my life and my country, is astonishing to me.

But as I’ve said time and time again, morons fell for it. I’d normally reserve calling anyone that given it’s their right to vote but that’s all they can be.

I stood in a meeting whilst working for the LA during the election, and I kid you not a bloke who’s working his bollcoks off in an underfunded system, that’s been put under undue pressure since the coalition, who’s seen families fall apart due to lack of support and services and he actually said ‘Boris will get my vote, he’s like one of us’…in what flipping world does that make any sense…I literally just said ‘so you’re a millionaire incompetent buffoon with illegitimate kids knocking about’…silence…

It’s flipping baffling that people didn’t see leaving the EU as you said would negatively impact us, those pesky folk in Europe looking after their own.

As for Mogg, unless you’re a Victorian throw back millionaire who pays little tax then he literally represents nobody other than Scrooge and the bank manager in Mary poppins…

The one thing that has been forgotten is that the vote was for staying or leaving. Suddenly when the remainers lost it was decided that we must do a deal. I don't recall being asked to vote on a deal, just to vote on leaving or staying with no string attached.

Remainers within the government then decided to bring on conditions and terms to leave which were not part of the vote. Cameron, May and co. didn't want to leave so made it difficult. What we have now is not what people voted for but what has been installed upon the people by those who wanted us to stay.

Leave was leave as in adios, goodbye not what we have after 4+ years of so-called negotiations.

Right, so what are you saying? That the brexit we’ve got is the fault of remainders?!
Isn’t it clear to you that there’s no such thing as ‘hard brexit’ when there are complex, technical arrangements that need to be considered’. The EU isn’t a golf club where you just cancel your subscription, have no further contact and go play somewhere else.

So if you were married for 40 years and you or your wife suddenly decided they wanted to leave, you wouldn't expect to negotiatie a divorce settlement agreement, access rights to children etc.? That seems a very naive expectation, doesn't it?

So with that clean break/hard brexit what did you expect to happen to:

Import taxes on goods & services
EU people living in this country at the time
UK people livining in the EU at the time
Border in Northern Ireland
The thousands of joint scientific & educational schemes/initiatives that the EU/UK had jointly funded?
Financial Settlements
Fishing & Farming Subsidies
Aviation and Shipping Rules
How the banking sector would operate
Recognition of Food & other product standards
The list is endless..

You don't appear to realise what a brainless thing it is to just say "we just want out".

Precisely