Brexit deal agreed

Quoted from KingstonMariner

Well known liberal leftie firm E&Y say so far 7000 finance jobs have left the City of London.

Assuming that they pay on average £40,000 a year each in tax (quite a low average for that sector - it’s only 30% of £133k) that’s £280,000,000 lost to the Exchequer. What was it NEL got in levelling up funding?

#Self-harm in Grimsby

It genuinely saddens me when you see Remainer’s who just can’t move on from 2016, I can almost feel your delight in any Brexit related negative news, but please at least tell the whole story -
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s.....-says-071115261.html

This report was released yesterday the same day as your story,
And I would be amazed if you hadn’t picked up on it.

That report literally says that the losses weren't as bad as predicted, not that Brexit had been a success. Like having a housefire and saying it's been a positive thing cause only the roof has been burned to pieces and some of the walls are still standing.

Quoted from mariner91

That report literally says that the losses weren't as bad as predicted, not that Brexit had been a success. Like having a housefire and saying it's been a positive thing cause only the roof has been burned to pieces and some of the walls are still standing.

Not As bad as predicted, you mean the 100,000 we were told? Look It's a tiny fraction of the numbers employed and they are roles, not people. Many of those people will have been reallocated to other London-based jobs, including roles created in the UK because of Brexit the EY reports. If we’re being honest this is a non story really, a poor attempt at Brexit Britain bashing.

As for you’re analogy it would be more like a loose roof tile after a storm 😀

From that article you posted it says:

EY also report:

1) The number of financial services firms to have moved or that plan to move operations, staff and assets from the UK to Europe as a result of Brexit has stabilised over the last 12 months.

2) Since the UK’s EU referendum, 44% (97 out of 222) of the largest UK financial services firms* have announced plans to move some UK operations and/or staff to the EU – a figure that nearly doubled between March 2017 (53 out of 222, 24%) and March 2021 (95 out of 222, 43%)

3) Since the referendum, 24 firms have publicly declared they will transfer just over £1.3trn of UK assets to the EU – a figure which has remained broadly flat over the past 18 months

4) In the last quarter, the number of Brexit-related staff relocations to the EU has been further revised down, from 7,400 in December 2021 to just over 7,000 as March 2022 closes – significantly down from the peak of 12,500 announced in 2016

When it comes to those who have located, Paris scores highest, attracting around 2,800 UK employees, followed by Frankfurt (around 1,800) and Dublin (around 1,200).

How you can say 1.3 trillion (a trillion is a million million) is a loose roof tile, and yet bleat about the cost of a few refugees coming over is beyond me.

Quoted from Roast Em Bobby

From that article you posted it says:

EY also report:

1) The number of financial services firms to have moved or that plan to move operations, staff and assets from the UK to Europe as a result of Brexit has stabilised over the last 12 months.

2) Since the UK’s EU referendum, 44% (97 out of 222) of the largest UK financial services firms* have announced plans to move some UK operations and/or staff to the EU – a figure that nearly doubled between March 2017 (53 out of 222, 24%) and March 2021 (95 out of 222, 43%)

3) Since the referendum, 24 firms have publicly declared they will transfer just over £1.3trn of UK assets to the EU – a figure which has remained broadly flat over the past 18 months

4) In the last quarter, the number of Brexit-related staff relocations to the EU has been further revised down, from 7,400 in December 2021 to just over 7,000 as March 2022 closes – significantly down from the peak of 12,500 announced in 2016

When it comes to those who have located, Paris scores highest, attracting around 2,800 UK employees, followed by Frankfurt (around 1,800) and Dublin (around 1,200).

How you can say 1.3 trillion (a trillion is a million million) is a loose roof tile, and yet bleat about the cost of a few refugees coming over is beyond me.

It’s a 2 way street -
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56155531.amp

No one is bleating about a few refugees are they? And you know this! It’s the thousands of illegal migrants, mainly fighting age men filling 4 star hotels up at the cost of over a billion quid a year, whilst our own people are struggling to keep the lights never mind the heating, that gets people ‘bleating’.

Quoted from Humbercod

It’s a 2 way street -
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56155531.amp

No one is bleating about a few refugees are they? And you know this! It’s the thousands of illegal migrants, mainly fighting age men filling 4 star hotels up at the cost of over a billion quid a year, whilst our own people are struggling to keep the lights never mind the heating, that gets people ‘bleating’.

This is literally made up…by definition, it’s impossible to know how many there is because they’re illegal…but more importantly, this is tantamount to Farage style maths…

Anybody who clings to the wreckage of brexit is a total moron and absolutely out of touch with the facts. Politicians (who have since shown you their colours with lie after lie….) sold this tripe to people and experts tried in vain to tell us what would happen. Watch this utterly appalling obfuscation and tissue of lies.

And just in case you were in any doubt as to this man’s credentials, honour, integrity, understanding of Brexit reality and the appalling dismantling of our proud British democracy….

The issue of Europe has plagued the Tories for decades and they wanted out for reasons of party unity and nothing to do with the betterment of the nation.

I can't remember which Tory said it but he basically said, " We either destroy the Tory party or we destroy the country". They chose the second path.

So their reason for wanting to leave was the totally selfish act of staying in power, because without Brexit, they would have torn themselves apart. It's the reason Cameron agreed to a vote because he thought the country would vote to stay in and he could finally silence the Euro sceptics and banish them to the fringes. It cost him his job, and the country it's membership of the biggest trading block in the world.

The Tory Euro sceptics are the worst kind of right wing tossers who want to take us back to Victorian times and re-establish the class system, with them at the top of course. They and their media machine lied to you about their intentions and made you think you would be better off, when in reality, the only people better off are them and their kind. You all fell for it and are still defending the lying, cheating fookers, because you can't bring yourselves to admit you were duped, despite all the evidence to the contrary.

It would be laughable if it wasn't so tragic.

Quoted from ginnywings

The issue of Europe has plagued the Tories for decades and they wanted out for reasons of party unity and nothing to do with the betterment of the nation.

I can't remember which Tory said it but he basically said, " We either destroy the Tory party or we destroy the country". They chose the second path.

So their reason for wanting to leave was the totally selfish act of staying in power, because without Brexit, they would have torn themselves apart. It's the reason Cameron agreed to a vote because he thought the country would vote to stay in and he could finally silence the Euro sceptics and banish them to the fringes. It cost him his job, and the country it's membership of the biggest trading block in the world.

The Tory Euro sceptics are the worst kind of right wing tossers who want to take us back to Victorian times and re-establish the class system, with them at the top of course. They and their media machine lied to you about their intentions and made you think you would be better off, when in reality, the only people better off are them and their kind. You all fell for it and are still defending the lying, cheating fookers, because you can't bring yourselves to admit you were duped, despite all the evidence to the contrary.

It would be laughable if it wasn't so tragic.

All that and far worse to come. We need to be closer to Europe on most economic and geopolitical matters not moving further away. Right now is the time for a single market in manufactured goods made with clean energy. The residue of our manufacturing industry is about to be fecked by energy prices and now is the worst time to be relying on imports from China, especially with the need to increase military spending. The first zero-carbon steel plant is in Sweden, we could be manufacturing hydrogen when we have surplus wind power - hydrogen is important for reducing emissions from steel-making. Europe needs to lead the way and put huge tariffs on goods made with fossil fuel energy from China and India.

It won't be enough mind, the planet is heading for a 2.5 to 3-degree rise - (see Dieter Helm's book who is saying the 1.5 degree train has left the station https://agreatread.co.uk/net-zero-how-we-stop-causing-climate-change-9780008404468/. We could be heading for more conflict as a result - even more reason to be closely aligned with EU on climate change, manufacturing and military