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Humbercod
March 11, 2022, 6:43am
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It amazes me how being one of the richest countries we can always find a few billion to stump up around the world, yet and I will say it again we have a large proportion of people in this country who will not be able to keep their lights on, will not be able to feed their children healthy nutritious meals and forget heating their homes! This is happening now and I see it every day in damp dingy homes. Yes of course this doesn’t compare to being bombed but these are still humans living in misery. So for all you comfy liberals who are happy to see the foreign aid budget maintained and would like to see the flood gates opened up to half the world, please just consider those who are less well off struggling day to day, genuinely depressed living with constant worry. Can you not understand the anger at the thousands of illegals coming in daily, being put up in comfortable  hotels can someone give me a liberal perspective in this so I can at least try to understand?
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I earn a decent amount and I'm happy to pay my way when it comes to taxes if it means that the less fortunate and more vulnerable get the help they need from our government. Unfortunately this government squeezes the middle and working classes whilst allowing the rich to get richer at all of our expense. Those of us working find our pay packets stretched more and more thinly and the talk of investing in services is a lie. They can claim all they like they've built 40 new hospitals but you don't even need to dig deep to realise it's a lie. And that's just one example.

There's more than enough wealth in this country to allow us to feed, house, heat and treat all of our citizens AND to help out on a global scale when something disastrous like the Ukraine invasion occurs. However, until people stop voting for the tories and we have a grown up conversation on taxing wealth, not just income, then we will continue to live in a society that is progressively unequal and polarised.
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Couldn’t agree more mate.


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I earn a decent amount and I'm happy to pay my way when it comes to taxes if it means that the less fortunate and more vulnerable get the help they need from our government. Unfortunately this government squeezes the middle and working classes whilst allowing the rich to get richer at all of our expense. Those of us working find our pay packets stretched more and more thinly and the talk of investing in services is a lie. They can claim all they like they've built 40 new hospitals but you don't even need to dig deep to realise it's a lie. And that's just one example.

There's more than enough wealth in this country to allow us to feed, house, heat and treat all of our citizens AND to help out on a global scale when something disastrous like the Ukraine invasion occurs. However, until people stop voting for the tories and we have a grown up conversation on taxing wealth, not just income, then we will continue to live in a society that is progressively unequal and polarised.


This is the camp I’m in but do you honestly think we would be in a better position if Labour had won the election.. be honest!
The government now asking Britons to take in refugees is absolutely embarrassing, just maybe if they didn’t fill hotels with illegals we could offer better.
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It amazes me how being one of the richest countries we can always find a few billion to stump up around the world, yet and I will say it again we have a large proportion of people in this country who will not be able to keep their lights on, will not be able to feed their children healthy nutritious meals and forget heating their homes! This is happening now and I see it every day in damp dingy homes. Yes of course this doesn’t compare to being bombed but these are still humans living in misery. So for all you comfy liberals who are happy to see the foreign aid budget maintained and would like to see the flood gates opened up to half the world, please just consider those who are less well off struggling day to day, genuinely depressed living with constant worry. Can you not understand the anger at the thousands of illegals coming in daily, being put up in comfortable  hotels can someone give me a liberal perspective in this so I can at least try to understand?


Are you in favour of a one off windfall tax on the energy companies to enable British families to afford gas/elec via rebate?


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This is the camp I’m in but do you honestly think we would be in a better position if Labour had won the election.. be honest!
The government now asking Britons to take in refugees is absolutely embarrassing, just maybe if they didn’t fill hotels with illegals we could offer better.


We will never know for sure if it would have been better. Would our cabinet be awash with Russian money and influence? No. Would it be so obviously corrupt siphoning off billions of tax payers hard earned cash to their mates? No. So in that respect it would have been better.
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I’ve had four £10m-£150m turnover clients (so far) this year, ask me to help them set up subsidiaries in Ireland (i.e. outside UK).

All owned by Brexit advocates who boasted how it would help the UK in the long run.

It may well do so, but there’s a hell of a lot of trade, professional fees, tax(!) and financial services now being pushed through Dublin 2.

All tried to ride it out for as long as possible and have admitted defeat as trade with the EU has become too difficult. More and more UK companies are having to blink first.
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Well known liberal leftie firm E&Y say so far 7000 finance jobs have left the City of London.

Assuming that they pay on average £40,000 a year each in tax (quite a low average for that sector - it’s only 30% of £133k) that’s £280,000,000 lost to the Exchequer. What was it NEL got in levelling up funding?

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