Brexit deal agreed

Brexit is great isn't it?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55734277

Quoted from ginnywings

Brexit is great isn't it?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55734277

A British supporting broadcaster...
UK clothes manufacturer’s may well prosper from the EU high tax and tariffs, with many brits now deciding to buy from UK based clothing company’s.

BBC....
Customers now forced to pay more for clothes because of Brexit.

We have a first past the post election,50% + will claim all the benefits are good. 50% - will moan about what we have lost.

50 odd years ago I voted to go into the 'Common market' a trading agreement FULL STOP. Nothing else was mentioned about politics etc.  Those old enough will remember we dumped our trading agreements with the rest of the world for the 'common market'. We traded quite happily with rest rest of the world but had import/export taxes etc with the 'common market'. As politicians (red and blue) put it, do we trade with countries 20 miles away or 1,000's miles away, no brainer they said and away went the lambs.

I now voted to leave for one reason and one reason only. I voted to go into a free trading area and nothing else. I was never asked to vote on anything else, had I know at the time the very hidden agenda of the politicians at that time I would not have voted to in.

Having voted to leave I have been conned again, another hidden agenda not on the voting form. The question was 'Do you want to leave?' and in went my cross. So where did this 'Deal' business come from?

Their was nothing on the voting form about deals. It was LEAVE and nothing else. No deals, nothing about any various agreements with EU etc.

It doesn't matter if your favourite politician is red or blue they will all let you down. They have their own agenda for them and they cronies. One small example "MP's expense scandal'

Quoted from Humbercod

A British supporting broadcaster...
UK clothes manufacturer’s may well prosper from the EU high tax and tariffs, with many brits now deciding to buy from UK based clothing company’s.

BBC....
Customers now forced to pay more for clothes because of Brexit.

The BBC...

It's an impartial broadcaster. It's news service is impartial. Even during WWII it reported the news (FACTS) without prejudice.

It's isn't the role of the BBC to "support Britain". It's role is to inform, education and entertain.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

The BBC...

It's an impartial broadcaster. It's news service is impartial. Even during WWII it reported the news (FACTS) without prejudice.

It's isn't the role of the BBC to "support Britain". It's role is to inform, education and entertain.

You must have rose tinted glass's.

Radio H is very biased to the north bank as is Look North. Both claim to represent a wide area but actually servre HULL.
Incidentally have you noticed Mr Yorkshire Hudson's weather map which has that well known N.E.L.C./ East Yorkshire/Lincolnshire/ N.Lincs/ town/city on it SHEFFIELD. When you look on his other maps for other Look North programmes there is nowhere in Lincs. etc. is on it.

Impartial, the Beeb don't know the meaning.

Inform mean London news, they are dropping local services as a cost saving
Education  When know about the subject they talk about you realise they haven't the foggiest idea
Entertain That went years ago, Dads Army, Steptoe etc. would be called prejudice today and might upset somebody

P.S. In WW2 They only broadcast what the Govt. let them. Censorship I believe.

Had we started a thread forty-odd years ago about the shortcomings of the EU we would be running into the millions of pages by now.

We democratically voted to stay in during the 70's and have been lied to ever since, as treaties were signed without us having a vote on the purpose and scope of the EU, which went much further into all aspects of our lives than we were told. I think some teething problems while things settle down pale into insignificance compared to that.

We democratically voted to leave, and have left, so let's see how it pans out in a few years.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Had we started a thread forty-odd years ago about the shortcomings of the EU we would be running into the millions of pages by now.

We democratically voted to stay in during the 70's and have been lied to ever since, as treaties were signed without us having a vote on the purpose and scope of the EU, which went much further into all aspects of our lives than we were told. I think some teething problems while things settle down pale into insignificance compared to that.

We democratically voted to leave, and have left, so let's see how it pans out in a few years.

Exactly.
And leading brexiteer JRM said it could take 50 years to see any benefits......

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/jacob-rees-mogg-economy-brexit_uk_5b54e3b5e4b0de86f48e3566

Thing is, one or two people not understanding about paying import duty and taxes when ordering from the EU now we're out of the customs union is neither here nor there. It will be a drop in the ocean.

In comparison, the Bank of France governor says that €170 billion of assets and 2,500 finance jobs have transferred to Paris from London thus far. With more to come:

https://www.theguardian.com/po.....e-says-bank-governor

So, lost revenue on the taxes paid on profits from said assets year on year plus the earnings of those workers, their tax and expenditure, will be going into the French exchequer. Considering these workers are in the finance sector, probably a quarter of a billion a year or more? That's just France as well, of course. Ernst Young reckons that £1 trillion of assets have been moved to the EU since 2016. Rats leaving the sinking ship.

We've already heard that many companies in the finance sector (and elsewhere) have relocated to or opened up major operations in Dublin, Amsterdam and Frankfurt so that will be plenty more profits, assets and taxes moving out of the UK.

Also, the UK financial sector is living on borrowed time for now:

https://ukandeu.ac.uk/what-does-the-brexit-trade-deal-mean-for-financial-services/

No passporting for services to the EU which will mean a lot more red tape to deal with. In the Graun article above, the Governor of the BoF mentioned that the EU countries are looking to form a financial union to replace the London clearing houses which are only currently going to be allowed to continue to operate for 18 months unless a deal can be agreed. The UK banks are not able to sell such a wide range of services due to the lack of equivalence agreements. All potentially something which can be resolved and negotiations have already begun, but it is in the EU's best interest to drag their feet somewhat. The more of the UK finance sector that relocates to the EU, the better for them. And they have the right to withdraw even the limited equivalence arrangements with 30 days notice. As the UK Government has already indicated they want us to become a tax haven, don't expect any favours to come our way. They've got us by the balls. We know it, they know it, our negotiators know it. Let's the negotiators can limit the damage to our financial sector as much as possible.

It's bad enough that we let our economy become so reliant on the financial sector. The fact that we then chucked them under the bus when the 'deal' was agreed is mind-boggling. I'd imagine quite a few folk stand to profit handsomely, however.

Still waiting for a list of the benefits of leaving the EU, other than the hand-wavy 'self-determination' stuff. I posted as much almost 2 weeks ago and it doesn't seem as though anybody has taken up the gauntlet yet.

We're getting a bit faster at entering the customs declaration data for EU sales but it's still going to take time which could be profitably used elsewhere. Remains to be seen how badly our business will be affected by the fact that EU customers are going to have to start paying VAT on deliveries and the delays that this will create (our goods are zero-rated in the UK, though not in most EU countries), though I understand that this is going to be a requirement for intra-EU sales later this year as well due to new EU regulations.

Quoted from Stadium

Exactly.
And leading brexiteer JRM said it could take 50 years to see any benefits......

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/jacob-rees-mogg-economy-brexit_uk_5b54e3b5e4b0de86f48e3566

Probably why he's set up a business in Ireland.

The people who will benefit most from our departure from the EU, will be people who are already stinking rich. Why do you think it was championed by people like JRM and IDS?

Quoted from Maringer

Thing is, one or two people not understanding about paying import duty and taxes when ordering from the EU now we're out of the customs union is neither here nor there. It will be a drop in the ocean.

In comparison, the Bank of France governor says that €170 billion of assets and 2,500 finance jobs have transferred to Paris from London thus far. With more to come:

https://www.theguardian.com/po.....e-says-bank-governor

So, lost revenue on the taxes paid on profits from said assets year on year plus the earnings of those workers, their tax and expenditure, will be going into the French exchequer. Considering these workers are in the finance sector, probably a quarter of a billion a year or more? That's just France as well, of course. Ernst Young reckons that £1 trillion of assets have been moved to the EU since 2016. Rats leaving the sinking ship.

We've already heard that many companies in the finance sector (and elsewhere) have relocated to or opened up major operations in Dublin, Amsterdam and Frankfurt so that will be plenty more profits, assets and taxes moving out of the UK.

Also, the UK financial sector is living on borrowed time for now:

https://ukandeu.ac.uk/what-does-the-brexit-trade-deal-mean-for-financial-services/

No passporting for services to the EU which will mean a lot more red tape to deal with. In the Graun article above, the Governor of the BoF mentioned that the EU countries are looking to form a financial union to replace the London clearing houses which are only currently going to be allowed to continue to operate for 18 months unless a deal can be agreed. The UK banks are not able to sell such a wide range of services due to the lack of equivalence agreements. All potentially something which can be resolved and negotiations have already begun, but it is in the EU's best interest to drag their feet somewhat. The more of the UK finance sector that relocates to the EU, the better for them. And they have the right to withdraw even the limited equivalence arrangements with 30 days notice. As the UK Government has already indicated they want us to become a tax haven, don't expect any favours to come our way. They've got us by the balls. We know it, they know it, our negotiators know it. Let's the negotiators can limit the damage to our financial sector as much as possible.

It's bad enough that we let our economy become so reliant on the financial sector. The fact that we then chucked them under the bus when the 'deal' was agreed is mind-boggling. I'd imagine quite a few folk stand to profit handsomely, however.

Still waiting for a list of the benefits of leaving the EU, other than the hand-wavy 'self-determination' stuff. I posted as much almost 2 weeks ago and it doesn't seem as though anybody has taken up the gauntlet yet.

We're getting a bit faster at entering the customs declaration data for EU sales but it's still going to take time which could be profitably used elsewhere. Remains to be seen how badly our business will be affected by the fact that EU customers are going to have to start paying VAT on deliveries and the delays that this will create (our goods are zero-rated in the UK, though not in most EU countries), though I understand that this is going to be a requirement for intra-EU sales later this year as well due to new EU regulations.

So why do our press tell us large percentages of Italians, Germans, French, Poles, Hungarians etc. all want to do a Brexit in there own lands. There is also the matter of covid where we started vaccinations before the EU.

To me the EU is a self egoistic community of bureaucrats who are in the minority trying to manipulate the majority through misinformation for their own self ends.