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January 7, 2021, 12:09am
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The only lie by the elite was on the vote join the EU. It was put as this " Do you want to trade with the EU, 20 miles away having a free trade agreement, or continue as we are trading with the commonwealth etc., who are 1,000's miles away.

No Maastricht treaty, no common currency, no Lisbon treaty no EU Parliament or politicians. I could go on and on about what happened after we joined, which at the   time of the vote was not suggested; it was just a trading union. I like many voted to join "No brainer". Then the goalposts widened and heightened and guess what we never got to vote on that.

Red blue and yellow politicians all conned us. It was a democratic vote but the subject matter was well and truly hidden until decades later. I voted to leave but again what I voted for has not happened.

The choice was "do you want to stay or leave". I do not recall being asked to vote on any deal! It was leave with no conditions attached. Again the Westminster machine changed what we voted for. The elite has conned us once more in the name of democracy.


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Personally, I really enjoyed spending 30 minutes today filling in the customs declarations for the orders we sent to EU customers. Heaven only knows what I'd have done with the extra 25 minutes of time if we'd remained in the EU! Nothing productive, I'm sure.

From April, I'll similarly appreciate filling in customs declarations when sending orders to customers in Northern Ireland (part of our own country at present, don't forget). More time spent during which I don't need to worry about being productive. At busy times of the year, I'm looking forward to working additional time in the evenings, filling in the customs declarations. Who needs free time, eh?

Still waiting to see if the coming devaluation of the pound will affect our business with our many EU customers in a positive manner. The devaluation after the Brexit vote certainly didn't seem to. Sales were impacted despite the fact that our goods became cheaper for customers, probably due to the negative sentiment. It doesn't help that we also sell a fair amount of stuff from EU countries which is going to become more expensive for us as well.

But, hey, "Sovereignty!", "Fish!", "Up Yours, Delors" etc etc.

It will be interesting to see which (if any) of the benefits promoted by those running the various 'Leave' campaigns actually come to fruition...
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Yeah I'd just like to echo the above - since returning to work this week I've had to spend far too much time paying attention to customs requirements and discovering things like DHL planning to charge us an extra £4.50 Brexit induced customs surcharge every time we want to send something to Europe. Can someone who is pro Brexit please explain to me how these needless additional costs we have to now incur are meant to be good for UK based businesses? Thanks!


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Heroic in the sense we were told there would be mass job losses and an immediate recession in the event of a leave win. Heroic in the sense we ignored the threats from the bankers, the globalists, the elites, the media even our own government and their propaganda leaflets everything and the kitchen sink was thrown at us.

What a proud day, a day I will never forget when 17,410,741 of my fellow heroic Countrymen finally stood up to the elites and said... NO we are leaving your corrupt union and we are taking our country back 🇬🇧


So what you mean then is “not heroic”.

It’s not frigging World War II. It isn’t even heroic in the sense that the Charge of the Light Brigade was heroic.  Nothing heroic about ignoring people who know what they’re talking about.

Taking our country back! You’re 70 years too late for that (Suez for example). We found out that exactly how independent we are when Joe Biden phoned Boris to tell him not to have a customs border between NI and the Irish Republic.


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Personally, I really enjoyed spending 30 minutes today filling in the customs declarations for the orders we sent to EU customers. Heaven only knows what I'd have done with the extra 25 minutes of time if we'd remained in the EU! Nothing productive, I'm sure.

From April, I'll similarly appreciate filling in customs declarations when sending orders to customers in Northern Ireland (part of our own country at present, don't forget). More time spent during which I don't need to worry about being productive. At busy times of the year, I'm looking forward to working additional time in the evenings, filling in the customs declarations. Who needs free time, eh?

Still waiting to see if the coming devaluation of the pound will affect our business with our many EU customers in a positive manner. The devaluation after the Brexit vote certainly didn't seem to. Sales were impacted despite the fact that our goods became cheaper for customers, probably due to the negative sentiment. It doesn't help that we also sell a fair amount of stuff from EU countries which is going to become more expensive for us as well.

But, hey, "Sovereignty!", "Fish!", "Up Yours, Delors" etc etc.

It will be interesting to see which (if any) of the benefits promoted by those running the various 'Leave' campaigns actually come to fruition...


You was one of the most vocal on here who said we would not get a deal.

So instead of moaning you have got more work to do think of this.
Be thankful you have a job and if you spend less time on here you will manage your extra work easily .


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You was one of the most vocal on here who said we would not get a deal.

So instead of moaning you have got more work to do think of this.
Be thankful you have a job and if you spend less time on here you will manage your extra work easily .


If that doesn’t sum up the Brexit mentality I’m not sure what does. A pensioner who’s enjoyed all the benefits of EU membership for the last 40 years telling someone they’re lucky to have a job (for how much longer is anyone’s guess) after voting to make that job less productive and the company less competitive.

We are truly blessed to have such caring generations come before us.
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Sorry if I come across a bit grumpy but there are a few on here who are saying how bad it's is already and will only get worse.

Guys we are in the middle of a pandemic half the country have not been to work half the year yet we are still here.

You do not know and neither do I If we will make a success of this.

But

One thing for sure we not know for a year a so when things have returned to some normality whether we are better off out of we should have stayed in.
I will not comment on the subject until then when I will say I told you we would be alright.
The same as I told you we would get a deal and we did  
So on this subject it's Pexit for now.


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January 7, 2021, 2:55pm
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When I was a lad we exported and exporters filled in forms by hand using ink. No computers, no laptops, no tablets or mobile phones to record data on and low and behold the system worked. The country sold goods abroad, no problem. Now we have technology to replace all this form filling by ink. Click a button and names address's etc. are instantly  filled in; however the positive is a person doing this does have a job; and more could be employed to assist the clicking of buttons!

You may also like to bare in mind the more important issue of our health, life or death. Thanks to Brexit we started the vaccination program before our ex EU members. So as far as I am concerned fill in the forms and keep me alive.


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When I was a lad we exported and exporters filled in forms by hand using ink. No computers, no laptops, no tablets or mobile phones to record data on and low and behold the system worked. The country sold goods abroad, no problem. Now we have technology to replace all this form filling by ink. Click a button and names address's etc. are instantly  filled in; however the positive is a person doing this does have a job; and more could be employed to assist the clicking of buttons!

You may also like to bare in mind the more important issue of our health, life or death. Thanks to Brexit we started the vaccination program before our ex EU members. So as far as I am concerned fill in the forms and keep me alive.


Just more garbage, absolutely reams of it. For a start, you’re wrong on the assertion that Brexit sped up the vaccination programme (which the Tories are fuccking up) -

https://fullfact.org/health/coronavirus-vaccine-brexit/


Secondly, what happened when you were a lad is irrelevant. The world has moved on, you may wish to observe it for yourself at some point. You’ve just had someone tell you they spent 30 mins filling out paperwork they didn’t need to last month. If they do that everyday it’s 130 hours a year - or about 3 & a quarter weeks - they’re doing something that didn’t need doing. Over 3 weeks a year wasted when they could have been doing something more productive, putting more into the economy, growing the business etc.

The entitlement just oozes out of your post. “Fill in the forms, keep ME alive”. So screw everyone else, your businesses, you personally, your families & communities - just keep my haggard old shell rattling around for a few more years. You’ll quickly find that you are of little concern, except where the govt can squeeze every last penny out of you, and will be at the back of the queue. Maybe people will be too busy filling in forms to be bothered about keeping you alive.
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Firstly Ska I was making a comparison not a statement.

Secondly You seem to think, from your comments, that money is the be all of everything and human life is nothing. In other words you have contempt for human life and place wealth and money before life. Given this you must have very little respect for human life which obviously must include your own!

Lastly Ska YOU will also, one day, may be a "haggard old shell rattling around" and may just want some help, help to feed yourself, help to breath, help to have as normal a life as possible having paid all your due's and demands to which ever governments wants your money. Or there is an alternative for you Euthanasia.

Grow up and respect the views of others.


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