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They'll be an independent nation and back in the EU within 10 years.
Latest opinion poll for this May's Scottish Parliamentary elections forecasts...
SNP 72 seats
CON 24
LAB 19
GRN 9
LDEM 5
Projected SNP majority of 15
Factor in that the Green party are pro-independence and you have a potential 81-48 split for pro-independence MSPs,
I can't wait to see Boris Johnson say there's no legitimate reason to hold another Scottish Independence Referendum if/when the SNP win a landslide.
Or indeed the Labour party whose official policy is to resist a new Independence referendum as stated by Sir Keir Starmer recently. I don't suppose Labour party members will be too thrilled either at coming behind the Conservative party if those figures turn out to be true; its amazing how Labour have lost their Scottish heartlands. Being a democrat myself I would certainly allow another referendum and let them become independent if the public so decide. |
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Or indeed the Labour party whose official policy is to resist a new Independence referendum as stated by Sir Keir Starmer recently.
I don't suppose Labour party members will be too thrilled either at coming behind the Conservative party if those figures turn out to be true; its amazing how Labour have lost their Scottish heartlands.
Being a democrat myself I would certainly allow another referendum and let them become independent if the public so decide.
Yeah, I'm not fussed myself. It's a choice for the Scottish people. And even if I was inclined to try and tell them to vote "No" I don't think I could think of a decent reason for them to stay in the Union. |
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They'll be an independent nation and back in the EU within 10 years.
I can't wait to see Boris Johnson say there's no legitimate reason to hold another Scottish Independence Referendum if/when the SNP win a landslide.
Scottish independence may happen (Johnson and co seem clueless about the union) and if it does, be prepared for fallout that surpasses Brexit If an independent Scotland manages to reduce its deficit enough to be allowed to join the EU, wouldn't this end the UK internal market? Wouldn't it create a border between Gretna and Berwick that looks like the one that's just been created between the UK and the EU? Scotland's exports to the rest of the UK are worth £51bn annually. Its annual exports to the EU are worth £16bn. |
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I'd say another Scots Indy Ref would be imminent, but the SNP leadership is about to either fall apart (after attempting to stitch up Salmond and failing miserably) or become wholly discredited by a Scottish establishment cover up. They'll still virtually sweep the board in the elections (Tories, Scottish Labour and LibDems have little to offer), but perhaps end up lacking the momentum they should have had. Can't see Sturgeon surviving what is coming up and I'd imagine most of the other senior SNPites are up to their necks in the whole thing as well.
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Genuine question: how's the fishing industry in Grimsby at the moment?
I keep reading about the problems facing the shell fish companies, the biggest sector in UK fishing, but nothing about the processors of imported fish or any news about developing the UK fleet.
My ex-fishman, pro Brexit dad tells me things are booming. But, really?
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It's a well worn path I've travelled down
Now there's ruin in my name, I wish i'd never got off the train
And I wish I'd listened to the words you said....
...Don't go down to Freeman Street
Don't go down to Freeman Street
You'll be lost and never found
You can never turn around
Don't go down to Freeman Street
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Genuine question: how's the fishing industry in Grimsby at the moment?
I keep reading about the problems facing the shell fish companies, the biggest sector in UK fishing, but nothing about the processors of imported fish or any news about developing the UK fleet.
My ex-fishman, pro Brexit dad tells me things are booming. But, really?
From everything I've seen and heard it appears the industry is virtually on it's knees already. Red tape (paperwork etc.) and the cost of it mean that the small profit margins that already existed in the industry have been wiped out and some have already stopped going out to sea as they lose less money by just not bothering. It probably hasn't helped that the Fishing Minister admitted that she didn't have the time to read the Brexit Trade Deal as she was too busy doing Nativity related activities. And then there's Rees-Mogg cracking jokes about the fish being happier because they are now British. All while the industry dies on it's bottom. |
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Genuine question: how's the fishing industry in Grimsby at the moment?
I keep reading about the problems facing the shell fish companies, the biggest sector in UK fishing, but nothing about the processors of imported fish or any news about developing the UK fleet.
My ex-fishman, pro Brexit dad tells me things are booming. But, really?
“It’s a lot easier to be fooled than to admit to being fooled” I think that’s accredited to Mark Twain but it’s certainly very true, no one likes to admit they were wrong, the deal on fishing is terrible, pretending otherwise which ever way you voted is not facing reality |
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“There's nothing wrong with the car except that it's on fire.”- Murray Walker
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Who told her that ? Nearly all the fish that comes through Grimsby is in a lorry not a trawler. |
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Just "teething problems" for the Scottish seafood providers: https://www.heraldscotland.com.....it-teething-problem/Mr Johnson suggested that companies which have lost "genuine buyers" "through no fault of their own" would be able to apply for compensation, with the UK Government setting aside a £23m fund for such claims.
He also described the issues, which have seen boats tied up and seafood go rotten before reaching its destination, as "teething problems" and suggested they were due to "people not filling in the right forms".
Mr Johnson said: "There are problems at the moment caused by teething problems, people not filling in the right forms or misunderstandings.
"When it's not people's fault, of course we're going to compensate and help out and funds have been put in place to do that." |
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