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Ipswin
May 12, 2019, 8:59pm
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Wouldn't  trading with African countries help them better than sending millions in aid that doesn't seem to be distributed to where it is needed the most.


I have no desire to help them in any shape or form be it through trade or through aid. Most of them have become skint basket cases since they got the independence they craved from us, France, Belgium etc. Rhodesia (sorry Zimbabwe) was known as the 'bread basket' of Africa due to its outstanding agriculture under colonial rule. Aid? Not from me mate, and as far as trade is concerned they've got nowt we want (or money to pay us for any exports we make to them)



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I have no desire to help them in any shape or form be it through trade or through aid. Most of them have become skint basket cases since they got the independence they craved from us, France, Belgium etc. Rhodesia (sorry Zimbabwe) was known as the 'bread basket' of Africa due to its outstanding agriculture under colonial rule. Aid? Not from me mate, and as far as trade is concerned they've got nowt we want (or money to pay us for any exports we make to them)



Thought you was just ignorant at first but it’s now  clear that you’re really stupid, an absolute idiot. Even the remoaner’s on here must be shaking their heads.


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If you look at most of the African  countries that are struggling it is because of war greed and draught,

You have to feel sorry for the normal people and kids but the leaders are all corrupt and most of the money you and I send in aid does not reach the people it was aimed at.


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Quoted from Ipswin


I have no desire to help them in any shape or form be it through trade or through aid. Most of them have become skint basket cases since they got the independence they craved from us, France, Belgium etc. Rhodesia (sorry Zimbabwe) was known as the 'bread basket' of Africa due to its outstanding agriculture under colonial rule. Aid? Not from me mate, and as far as trade is concerned they've got nowt we want (or money to pay us for any exports we make to them)



With the right investment they could have something valuable to trade with, from small acorns and all that.


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This from an ardent outspoken EU supporter -

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s.....-africa-donald-trump


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Quoted from grimsby pete
If you look at most of the African  countries that are struggling it is because of war greed and draught.



You’re not wrong Pete but it’s not the whole story the EU lets its farmers dump all their excess and cheap farm produce on African markets, forcing African farmers to sell their products for fxxk all or leave the market altogether. All whilst having the nerve to push for ever more foreign aid to Africa! The EU also imposes stiff tariffs on African agricultural imports, making it impossible for Africa to trade itself out of poverty, which ends up with the poverty war famine and diseases you alluded to it’s a vicious circle.

Corruption and human rights abuse are obvious factors we know most of Africa is run by tinpot dictators, but this scale of human tragedies was unheard of before the trading EEC became the superstate which is the EU.


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You’re not wrong Pete but it’s not the whole story the EU lets its farmers dump all their excess and cheap farm produce on African markets, forcing African farmers to sell their products for fxxk all or leave the market altogether. All whilst having the nerve to push for ever more foreign aid to Africa! The EU also imposes stiff tariffs on African agricultural imports, making it impossible for Africa to trade itself out of poverty, which ends up with the poverty war famine and diseases you alluded to it’s a vicious circle.

Corruption and human rights abuse are obvious factors we know most of Africa is run by tinpot dictators, but this scale of human tragedies was unheard of before the trading EEC became the superstate which is the EU.


If ever an issue cut across party politics it is Brexit. I have many friends to the left of me who cite exactly the situation described in that article and your post as reasons to vote to leave.


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Four results in and it’s already very clear that there should have been a single party who should have been nominated as the remain tactical vote for the whole country. He might be a complete cunnt but he’s a clever cunnt that Farage cause the headlines will all be about 40% Brexit Party votes.
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Brexit party on 31% and LD on 21% and Green on 12%. Remainers slightly ahead.


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