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WOZOFGRIMSBY
June 7, 2022, 7:15pm

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All my neighbours have managed to get permission for Dormer extensions over looking my garden so I’m sure they’d easy be able to get permission for a stand that over looks nothing and if built right wouldn’t affect their sun light.

We seemed to be dead set on moving grounds for 25 years , I doubt if a study has ever even been done to improve Blundell park and increase the capacity


Isn’t that something to do with overshadowing planning?

Maybe we should ask scunny. They’ve always been in our shadow


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The thing with planning is that residents can complain all they want, but it doesn't mean they will be successful.

If the council deem it's a satisfactory plan and doesn't contravene any planning laws, then it will be passed despite the protests.

I would imagine plans to build/alter any stands will be drawn up by a planning consultant, whose job it is to make sure the final plans have more than a fair chance of being accepted before they are drawn up and submitted. There is a pre existing structure in place, so they are already in a good situation.

Surely the residents would prefer a nice new shiny stadium at the bottom of their garden, than the ramshackle collection of mismatched wood, metal sheeting and barbed wire they have to look at presently.

Last summer when we dismantled the old corrugated metal sheet fence in the fan zone and built a new block wall, the residents were fine about it and why wouldn't they be.
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Ok then look at every other club that had a new ground or a modern upgrade and you’ll see an increase in attendances .
Other than last season of attendances have been around the same figure for 20 odd years


You must follow your sweeping statement with facts, and before you demand a £20+million outlay.
Avg attendance before new Stadium, v Avg attendance after new Stadium in say Tier 4 and/or  3.

Our avg attendance will go up next season due to local interest and away fans.
21-22 season 5,704, so predict avg 6704 in 22-23, or 1000 more per match at £10 per head avg = £230,000 extra gate money.
Bet you our extra wage cost will be far greater than this. This kind of calculation is what the board will be doing.
Factor in a £25 million mortgage for a spanking new stadium, and I'm not sure we can afford top players, not that we can afford them now.
Never mind history/nostalgia that 120+ years that Blundel Park evokes. Let's be honest, History/Nostalgia is the only thing that kept fans going in the last 10 years. Throw that away at your peril.
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I often think we should just buy up the 10 or so houses behind the main stand and then build a new full length main stand similar to the biggish one Lincoln have
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Quoted from Roast Em Bobby
I often think we should just buy up the 10 or so houses behind the main stand and then build a new full length main stand similar to the biggish one Lincoln have

Or at least offer to buy the last few metres of their back gardens?


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Quoted from AdamHaddock

Or at least offer to buy the last few metres of their back gardens?


There is a few metres of space behind the stand now, so it could be extended backwards to the boundary line
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Quoted from Roast Em Bobby
I often think we should just buy up the 10 or so houses behind the main stand and then build a new full length main stand similar to the biggish one Lincoln have


There are in fact 21 houses backing onto BP on Harrington Street so even offering £100k each to encourage people to sell will still cost over £2million, and you have to get every resident to agree to move......could be very tricky.



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Do we need the houses behind though. Modern structure same height but full length could provide a stand with around 3,500 seats. That would be 1,000 extra.
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How come various grounds in the country, hemmed in by residential streets have obtained pp for stadium improvements?

No doubt some would object but that doesn't mean they would stop it.


Once you have a licence to run something, enhancing is much much more straightforward than a new build.
We have had two applications thrown out as loads of people objected (including on this forum).
The last "proposal" was Freeman St, except nobody asked if it hadn't been earmarked for social housing.
Somebody pasted a pic on the docks map, but that was never a goer as it's earmarked for business dev., and now a Freeport.
So not only a plot of land hasn't been found, the £20+ million hasn't either. In the meantime we are at best 2/3 full.
When was the last time GTFC had ticket touts operating outside the ground?
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Quoted from Barrattstander


There are in fact 21 houses backing onto BP on Harrington Street so even offering £100k each to encourage people to sell will still cost over £2million, and you have to get every resident to agree to move......could be very tricky.



Neigh on impossible I say and you can basically double those prices as the residents hold all the cards.

You could easily spunk £10m on a new, improved, larger main stand and you've still got three sides of an antiquated ground with poor access and substandard facilities.

The cost/benefit for a new stadium is against the cost/benefits of the status quo. That includes any opex and capex needed to run and maintain Blundell Park for the foreseeable. Whatever way you cut it up we are going to have to spend an eight figure sum on something at some point its unavoidable as the current set up won't last forever.
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