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pen penfras
September 20, 2020, 9:07pm

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Our freedom to do what exactly? Freedom of speech? What happened to that?


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I don't really care that players take the knee, but BLM doesn't send a message of equality to me.


What part of that says they shouldn't have freedom of speech? It says I disagree with the message of BLM, not that they shouldn't be allowed to make a point that they believe in.
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September 20, 2020, 9:08pm
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It will go on for as long as the players feel the need to protest, and it won't just stop because ignorant white people are easily offended by racial inequality.


Leaving your own racist comment aside, did you mean white people like me are offended by 'inequality'? Yes many of us are, and demonstrate that in many ways in their lives. If you meant to say ' equality' then I think it is basic social justice.

I question the assumption that all town players, whatever their ethnicity are entirely comfortable with a public display of 'solidarity' when this gesture is so easily associated with a BLM hard left political agenda. If all players participate, surely that is reminiscent of North Korean worship of a despot during a military display. Hardly a personal statement.

Why do you want to pile this societal pressure on to young players? They already have a strongly worded set of protocols from the EFL ( for all staff), and wear the ''Not Today Or Any Day'' logo on their shirts.
Would you like fans to 'take the knee' as we enter the ground? One has said he would. Fine, his choice. Let the players have theirs.
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There seems to be plenty of pressure on 'these young players' to stop it which I'm guessing is fine with you. If you genuinely think they're kneeling to support Marxism then God help you.
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Leaving your own racist comment aside, did you mean white people like me are offended by 'inequality'? Yes many of us are, and demonstrate that in many ways in their lives. If you meant to say ' equality' then I think it is basic social justice.

I question the assumption that all town players, whatever their ethnicity are entirely comfortable with a public display of 'solidarity' when this gesture is so easily associated with a BLM hard left political agenda. If all players participate, surely that is reminiscent of North Korean worship of a despot during a military display. Hardly a personal statement.

Why do you want to pile this societal pressure on to young players? They already have a strongly worded set of protocols from the EFL ( for all staff), and wear the ''Not Today Or Any Day'' logo on their shirts.
Would you like fans to 'take the knee' as we enter the ground? One has said he would. Fine, his choice. Let the players have theirs.


A lot of anger there,  I am not applying any pressure to go either way, to take a knee or not.  It is there choice, the pressure is coming from the anti-BLM side of this arrgument not those in favour.

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So, so many snowflakes crying about some footballers taking the knee. Again.

Wahh wahh wahhh. Pathetic.


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There seems to be plenty of pressure on 'these young players' to stop it which I'm guessing is fine with you. If you genuinely think they're kneeling to support Marxism then God help you.


Didn't say that and you know it. What is it about straw man arguments that so attracts you? Just deal with what folk actually say and then you will actually be discussing the issues as opposed to slinging Twitter like insults. Oh, and best leave deities out of it don't you think?
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Three pages and no-one has said all lives matter yet. Have we broken a record?
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What part of that says they shouldn't have freedom of speech? It says I disagree with the message of BLM, not that they shouldn't be allowed to make a point that they believe in.


Which is what?
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A lot of anger there,  I am not applying any pressure to go either way, to take a knee or not.  It is there choice, the pressure is coming from the anti-BLM side of this arrgument not those in favour.



How do you know it's their choice. Some of the younger players may feel afraid of repercussions from other players if they don't get down on one knee.

Thankfully not all F1 drivers feel the need to get down on one knee even if it upsets the excrement out of Lewis Hamilton and the moaning pathetic Sky commentators.  
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Now you mention it I thought I saw a single tear running down James Tilley's cheek as Matt Green glowered at him and slowly ran a finger across his own throat.
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