Taking the knee

Quoted from Sandford1981

Hilarious!

Touché, quite the wordsmith  

Quoted from Humbercod

Why?

Is this not supposed to be in the scipt? This is what he told me in a recent conversation do you think he’s lying to me?🤯

I think it's because we're using two people as examples. As sample sizes go (in order to draw more accurate conclusions) you need about 10% of the black population in the UK. There are about 2 million people who identify themselves as black living in the UK.

So once you've asked 200,000 black people what their experiences of racism are in this country, then we'll start to get some accuracy.

Quoted from male private Nale

Works both ways that, I presume you have never lived in heavily populated black areas, I do not condone any racism, have friends and workmates of all ethnicities but to say walk a mile in a black persons shoes you should also try walking a mile in a white persons shoes living amongst blacks before you mount your soap box.

If you've walked a mile in a white person's shoes within a black community and experienced racism then surely, surely, that would help you empathise with their current situation and the BLM campaign in general?

I think this is a very clumsy way of looking at this. The problem for many of us is that we simply do not truly know what it's like to switch the TV on and not recognise people similar to us; not to see people of our race in the top jobs at big businesses. We don't know what it's like to be judged every single minute of the day, with passing glances in the street, not being looked at in the eye by someone selling you a newspaper, or not being given a job because your CV was put in the bin on the strength of your unusual name.

I don't know what any of that feels like.

Jesus this thread highlights what a mess this country has got itself in. People suggesting violence because of a peaceful protest they don’t agree with. I really think if this had taken place ten years ago it wouldn’t have been an issue but a decade of deliberate division by those in charge and racist scaremongering in the media has led to this. Surely even if you don’t agree with everything about BLM and think the name sends the wrong message then you can still appreciate that equality for all is a good thing and that actions by players are well intentioned.

Quoted from RichMariner

If you've walked a mile in a white person's shoes within a black community and experienced racism then surely, surely, that would help you empathise with their current situation and the BLM campaign in general?

I think this is a very clumsy way of looking at this. The problem for many of us is that we simply do not truly know what it's like to switch the TV on and not recognise people similar to us; not to see people of our race in the top jobs at big businesses. We don't know what it's like to be judged every single minute of the day, with passing glances in the street, not being looked at in the eye by someone selling you a newspaper, or not being given a job because your CV was put in the bin on the strength of your unusual name.

I don't know what any of that feels like.

Steady on!

The UK is one of the most diverse countries in the world and we have some of the most stringent equality laws in the world.The vast proportion of the public are quite naturally absolutely fine with people of any creed and there are people of all races and colours in top jobs in industry,  commerce and politics.

There you go. Some black people have good jobs and Lew is naturally 'absolutely fine' with it. Job done, institutional racism no more, stop banging on about it.

Someone's gonna take my knee if this thread continues much longer.

Quoted from RichMariner

If you've walked a mile in a white person's shoes within a black community and experienced racism then surely, surely, that would help you empathise with their current situation and the BLM campaign in general?

I think this is a very clumsy way of looking at this. The problem for many of us is that we simply do not truly know what it's like to switch the TV on and not recognise people similar to us; not to see people of our race in the top jobs at big businesses. We don't know what it's like to be judged every single minute of the day, with passing glances in the street, not being looked at in the eye by someone selling you a newspaper, or not being given a job because your CV was put in the bin on the strength of your unusual name.

I don't know what any of that feels like.

I suppose if You moved to Japan you would experience something similar as a white man simply because You’re different to the general population, which is what the early black and Asian communities would of experienced. But generations later we now have towns and city’s that are very diverse where Black people thrive and are not eyeballed. It’s all about the ethnic numbers pass a black man walking down Winchester avenue and you may be forgiven for looking twice, similarly a white man walking through the back streets of Saville Town Yorkshire would not surprisingly  get more than the odd glance.

Quoted from RichMariner

If you've walked a mile in a white person's shoes within a black community and experienced racism then surely, surely, that would help you empathise with their current situation and the BLM campaign in general?

I think this is a very clumsy way of looking at this. The problem for many of us is that we simply do not truly know what it's like to switch the TV on and not recognise people similar to us; not to see people of our race in the top jobs at big businesses. We don't know what it's like to be judged every single minute of the day, with passing glances in the street, not being looked at in the eye by someone selling you a newspaper, or not being given a job because your CV was put in the bin on the strength of your unusual name.

I don't know what any of that feels like.

Kick it Out campaign was about racism, BLM is not about racism, you obviously aren't aware or don't understand the fundamentals of BLM. Also what they hell are you on about switching on the TV and not recognising people similar.... you haven't watched much television over the past few years and the drive for diversity then.

Quoted from pizzzza

Someone's gonna take my knee if this thread continues much longer.

Ha did you get to page 14 of thread under duress??