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Did anyone hear the interview with the two Orient owners (one of whom is a Texan who didn't know why he invested in an English (non) league team but he's 100% committed and loving it especially with the travelling fans) on Talksport this morning

They described the set up they have in place with a director of football who not only works with (I emphasise with) Edinburgh but runs and organises all the junior sides, Orient football courses / activities abroad (two in the US and one in Denmark this summer) plus all the other on and off field activities and publicity.

If only we were set up like that with a bloke who could do 10% of what he does and two forward thinking owners


Totally agree, but no-one's interested in investing in lower league or Conference clubs.. apparently. Yet I can think of at least ten clubs in the past couple of years that have attracted those "non-existent" potential investors and one down the road that found thirteen. And anyway, even if any of our board had bumped into him on Victoria Street as they were busily looking for investment, they'd have refused the Texan because he wasn't born within the sound of the St James bells..
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Quoted from Ipswin
Did anyone hear the interview with the two Orient owners (one of whom is a Texan who didn't know why he invested in an English (non) league team but he's 100% committed and loving it especially with the travelling fans) on Talksport this morning

They described the set up they have in place with a director of football who not only works with (I emphasise with) Edinburgh but runs and organises all the junior sides, Orient football courses / activities abroad (two in the US and one in Denmark this summer) plus all the other on and off field activities and publicity.

If only we were set up like that with a bloke who could do 10% of what he does and two forward thinking owners


Interesting that Edinburgh is described by Orient as their Head Coach. He is not the club manager. A week or two back I posted that I thought Jolley was much more a Director Of Football type than a traditional club manager. He could do that overview job very well and we could have a head coach dedicated to 3 points a game for the first team.

The other point is location though, Leyton is not salubrious but it is well placed so there is a more obvious potential than Grimsby - not necessarily better but more obvious. The investment by the chairman’s pal makes you wonder why our owner seems to be Johnny-No-Mates.



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Spot on. His passing is a weakness but he has the vision to spot opportunities, if he can improve his passing we will have a real player on our hands


Passing is the absolute basic.If you can't kick a ball to where you intend to kick it to you shouldn't be a professional footballer. It's like saying if he could ride he would be a good jockey.
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You quoted me out of context I was pointing out to another poster our excellent defence which he was praising isn`t really that excellent if conceding 2 goals to the league`s worst team


I don't really think I was quoting out of context 1ML.... just adding my thoughts to whether or not Town were any good on Saturday and I just compared us to how some of their previous opponents had fared recently

It's all about opinions so guess we'll just have to agree to differ on whether we had anything positive to take from our day out at Notts or not  

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He took on a poisoned Challis at the time...we we're in a downward spiral that no one could stop... we'd tried sir Alan and he failed...all I'm saying is at the moment we are relatively stable, maybe this season MJ has learned not just how this league works but more importantly, how GTFC work.. I saw enough today to think we'll be okay next season ..as long as he f@cks Woolford off


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You must have had a different view from where I was sat.

All I saw was a team that lost 2-1 to the poorest team in the league, could have been more.

Dreadful defending, a midfield that cannot create chances, not one player that can take a decent free kick or corner and no forwards that looks like they would get more than a couple of goals in a whole season and hoof ball tactics.


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So, you didn't see Max Wright, Burrell, Grayson's curler go just over, Whitmore hardly putting a foot wrong, RHJ winning just about every header, Hess and Clifton battling,...
I know we weren't our best yesterday and Jolley got the contract extension of Cardwell completely wrong but there was enough to say that 2-3 players ie, striker, creative midfielder( in the Embleton mould) and, inmho, a keeper who can distribute the ball better or at the very least push Macca for the shirt...


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Sounds great however our defence conceded 2 goals to a team so wretched it hasn`t got out the bottom two for Months and it took us over 90 mins to get a consolation goal.Not good enough.


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In all fairness their first goal was more luck than bad defending, it flicked off , I think Davis's leg, and fell to a striker who is far better than league 2.. the second was calamitous I'll give you that..but given we did miss Ohman in the centre of that defence who no doubt would have got his head on that....
Still maintain Jolley needs some guidance, he has the brains but seems to be somewhat unable to see his own mistakes...poor substitutions and a lack of a workable plan B...
I would say 75% of this squad are good league 2 players and 25% are conference level at best and if MJ can't get a tune out of them, then he has to admit to himself that for all his badges and ambition he just hasn't got what it takes to be a football league manager and maybe go back to coaching the young guns...
What I will not accept is that he never, ever admits to getting it wrong..even yesterday in his post match interview he laid the blame at the players feet...but who bought/signed them,set them up and sent them out on to the pitch?..yes, MJ... he's got it wrong more times than he's got it right and needs to hold his hands up and admit it...a good tradesman never blames his tools,...

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Notts also put three past both Stevenage and Carlisle in the past month or so.... what does that say about those teams?


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Quoted from Ipswin
Did anyone hear the interview with the two Orient owners (one of whom is a Texan who didn't know why he invested in an English (non) league team but he's 100% committed and loving it especially with the travelling fans) on Talksport this morning

They described the set up they have in place with a director of football who not only works with (I emphasise with) Edinburgh but runs and organises all the junior sides, Orient football courses / activities abroad (two in the US and one in Denmark this summer) plus all the other on and off field activities and publicity.

If only we were set up like that with a bloke who could do 10% of what he does and two forward thinking owners


I heard it but it's all about investing in the right people and having the right mind-set.

Which is difficult when your owner has spent spunked his cash over 15 years and now wants some of it back.
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I heard it but it's all about investing in the right people and having the right mind-set.

Which is difficult when your owner has spent spunked his cash over 15 years and now wants some of it back.


The first thing I thought of when I heard Leyton had been promoted was what sort of a welcome reception Justin Edinburgh might get when he brings his team up to Blundell Park!
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The first thing I thought of when I heard Leyton had been promoted was what sort of a welcome reception Justin Edinburgh might get when he brings his team up to Blundell Park!


You'll have to explain that one to me!



Well I did try to tell you all Jolley was a mistake

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Quoted from Ipswin


You'll have to explain that one to me!



Can't be certain but may be Foow was referring to his meltdown when at BP If I remember correctly a game was abandoned because of fog when his side were winning 1-0.
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Can't be certain but may be Foow was referring to his meltdown when at BP If I remember correctly a game was abandoned because of fog when his side were winning 1-0.


That’s what I was referring to Arry....Edinburgh was not best pleased with our chairman as was

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