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GrimRob
April 28, 2019, 7:05am

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When was the last time sacking a manager had a positive effect? MJ is doing better than his predecessor although the last few months doesn't feel like it.


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When was the last time sacking a manager had a positive effect? MJ is doing better than his predecessor although the last few months doesn't feel like it.


I still think he`s worth a shout personally but he needs to hit the ground running a bad start and the knives will be out Rob.
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Sounds great however our defence conceded 2 goals to a team so wretched it hasn`t got out the bottom two for Months and it took us over 90 mins to get a consolation goal.Not good enough.


In all fairness their first goal was more luck than bad defending, it flicked off , I think Davis's leg, and fell to a striker who is far better than league 2.. the second was calamitous I'll give you that..but given we did miss Ohman in the centre of that defence who no doubt would have got his head on that....
Still maintain Jolley needs some guidance, he has the brains but seems to be somewhat unable to see his own mistakes...poor substitutions and a lack of a workable plan B...
I would say 75% of this squad are good league 2 players and 25% are conference level at best and if MJ can't get a tune out of them, then he has to admit to himself that for all his badges and ambition he just hasn't got what it takes to be a football league manager and maybe go back to coaching the young guns...
What I will not accept is that he never, ever admits to getting it wrong..even yesterday in his post match interview he laid the blame at the players feet...but who bought/signed them,set them up and sent them out on to the pitch?..yes, MJ... he's got it wrong more times than he's got it right and needs to hold his hands up and admit it...a good tradesman never blames his tools,...
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In all fairness their first goal was more luck than bad defending, it flicked off , I think Davis's leg, and fell to a striker who is far better than league 2.. the second was calamitous I'll give you that..but given we did miss Ohman in the centre of that defence who no doubt would have got his head on that....
Still maintain Jolley needs some guidance, he has the brains but seems to be somewhat unable to see his own mistakes...poor substitutions and a lack of a workable plan B...
I would say 75% of this squad are good league 2 players and 25% are conference level at best and if MJ can't get a tune out of them, then he has to admit to himself that for all his badges and ambition he just hasn't got what it takes to be a football league manager and maybe go back to coaching the young guns...
What I will not accept is that he never, ever admits to getting it wrong..even yesterday in his post match interview he laid the blame at the players feet...but who bought/signed them,set them up and sent them out on to the pitch?..yes, MJ... he's got it wrong more times than he's got it right and needs to hold his hands up and admit it...a good tradesman never blames his tools,...


The last 3-4 games though have been free hits for Town they knew they had 1200 fans at yesterdays game we not be bold and adventurous. They had done the hard part keeping it to 0-0 after 20 mins and flattening the crowd we should have been at their throats and took them on in an end to end game.The football is boring and predictable and when you put the results on top of that it`s all very disheartening I watch for new signings hoping for a miracle.
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The last 3-4 games though have been free hits for Town they knew they had 1200 fans at yesterdays game we not be bold and adventurous. They had done the hard part keeping it to 0-0 after 20 mins and flattening the crowd we should have been at their throats and took them on in an end to end game.The football is boring and predictable and when you put the results on top of that it`s all very disheartening I watch for new signings hoping for a miracle.


Absolutely I agree with you and the fault has to lay at Jolleys door...if he doesn't change his approach, which I doubt he will, I honestly believe a more attacking minded manager could get thus squad firing.
All I am saying is the majority of our squad are not bad players, to me, they are just badly played..
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Absolutely I agree with you and the fault has to lay at Jolleys door...if he doesn't change his approach, which I doubt he will, I honestly believe a more attacking minded manager could get thus squad firing.
All I am saying is the majority of our squad are not bad players, to me, they are just badly played..


I agree I think we have some good players and mostly young but they are not being played to their strengths at present.
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Ah, here we go.....

“Give the youth a chance” they cry.

Fast forward a few games and it appears that, shock horror, the youth won’t set the world alright instantly.

“The youth aren’t good enough.”


I have never cried 'give youth a chance', in fact with the exception perhaps of Clifton I don't think any of our youth are ready or good enough.

As far as Rose is concerned posters on here constantly refer to his speed. Sadly if that's all he's got he isn't going to be our star striker or even our star strikers partner.

We've invested a lot in him, waited for his clearance but I'm afraid he just hasn't got it and is massively over-rated

As far as Clifton is concerned 'performs well in moderate company' could well be applied to his performances this year. Next season will hopefully tell.




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I do fear a bit what MJ will do next season with what ever budget he is given based on some of the signings he has made this season.


Which is a good reason (in Fenty's mind) not to give him a lot of money. Would you risk a larger budget on Jolley? If he blows it all and felicitations it up there won't be anything left for the new man in January



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I have never cried 'give youth a chance', in fact with the exception perhaps of Clifton I don't think any of our youth are ready or good enough.

As far as Rose is concerned posters on here constantly refer to his speed. Sadly if that's all he's got he isn't going to be our star striker or even our star strikers partner.

We've invested a lot in him, waited for his clearance but I'm afraid he just hasn't got it and is massively over-rated

As far as Clifton is concerned 'performs well in moderate company' could well be applied to his performances this year. Next season will hopefully tell.




Spot on for me Ipswin, i havent seen anything from Rose thus far, yes maybe we as fans expect too much too soon but he isnt 17 years old, he’s near enough 21, has to be showing more for me
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In all fairness their first goal was more luck than bad defending, it flicked off , I think Davis's leg, and fell to a striker who is far better than league 2.. the second was calamitous I'll give you that..but given we did miss Ohman in the centre of that defence who no doubt would have got his head on that....
Still maintain Jolley needs some guidance, he has the brains but seems to be somewhat unable to see his own mistakes...poor substitutions and a lack of a workable plan B...
I would say 75% of this squad are good league 2 players and 25% are conference level at best and if MJ can't get a tune out of them, then he has to admit to himself that for all his badges and ambition he just hasn't got what it takes to be a football league manager and maybe go back to coaching the young guns...
What I will not accept is that he never, ever admits to getting it wrong..even yesterday in his post match interview he laid the blame at the players feet...but who bought/signed them,set them up and sent them out on to the pitch?..yes, MJ... he's got it wrong more times than he's got it right and needs to hold his hands up and admit it...a good tradesman never blames his tools,...


Contrast with Neil Warnock's open admission that he played it wrong yesterday and said he only had praise for his players. All we got from MJ was 'players not doing their jobs'. Do Limbrick and Moore get a say in the debrief? Was it necessary to say that the team next season will be very different to the one that finishes this one? Rather mealy mouthed about the Wright/ Boston saga too.
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