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diehardmariner
February 15, 2012, 10:29pm
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I've not read my paperwork yet but from the bits on this thread it seems too many people are not appreciating the impossible situation the Trust board were put under here.

Balloting members in such a short space of time?  Come off it, they had to act there and then and were on a hiding to nothing.  No bids for Hearn? Maybe not but few phone calls to declare his availability and the bids would have rolled in.  

The Trust had to make a quick decision, which they did. Right or wrong, they made it.  If anyone else wanted to be in that position they had plenty of opportunity to do so.  
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February 15, 2012, 10:31pm
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I don't mean a responsibility to listen to my or any other non trust member's opinion just a huge (and possibly unwanted) responsibility given to them by Mr Parker and on behalf of all fans



Mr Parker's gift was not to the fans, but to the Trust, that was very clear when the transfer was made.
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I've not read my paperwork yet but from the bits on this thread it seems too many people are not appreciating the impossible situation the Trust board were put under here.

Balloting members in such a short space of time?  Come off it, they had to act there and then and were on a hiding to nothing.  No bids for Hearn? Maybe not but few phone calls to declare his availability and the bids would have rolled in.  

The Trust had to make a quick decision, which they did. Right or wrong, they made it.  If anyone else wanted to be in that position they had plenty of opportunity to do so.  


Fair point and I agree the situation was very difficult. Better to make a wrong decision that not to make one at all.

Nothing but respect for the people who give up their time, I wouldnt want to do it.

I just think the whole situation could have been handled better, it just seems a bit cloak and dagger that it should come out in this way.

That said I will be putting my money where my mouth is and joining the Trust at the end of this month.
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February 15, 2012, 10:58pm
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Fair point and I agree the situation was very difficult. Better to make a wrong decision that not to make one at all.

Nothing but respect for the people who give up their time, I wouldnt want to do it.

I just think the whole situation could have been handled better, it just seems a bit cloak and dagger that it should come out in this way.

That said I will be putting my money where my mouth is and joining the Trust at the end of this month.


Oh no it's not!

http://ambiguityadvantage.blogspot.com/2008/02/action-bias-in-decision-making-problem.html



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February 15, 2012, 11:11pm
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I'm clearly an odd one out here. I.E. the only Trust member who seems to be against this proposal.

To all you other antis - this shows why you should have joined the Trust. This is the sort of thing that happens when people stand on the sidelines moaning but refuse to do anything about it. Well done.

I really don't know why we bother with a Supporters Trust. This is the third time its bent over and given JF what he wants. This time it smacks of having one so with a (metaphorical) gun to its head. Even if you agree with the logic that we need his money, it has missed an opportunity for something in return. Pure short-termism.

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Who do you think got the better deal? The trust or Mr Fenty?


GTFC.

Quoted from blasty
I just think the whole situation could have been handled better, it just seems a bit cloak and dagger that it should come out in this way.


This is I do agree with. It would have been far better to have published the contents of the letter on the day it was sent out.


Quoted from John Fenty, April 2013
I deconstructed the flag to the point where it was safe and couldn’t be considered a danger
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February 15, 2012, 11:17pm
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Look everybody, this was always going to be the case. The Trust is brassic apart from a paper value. It has no cash to support the club with. Some pleasant ideas but no hard cash.

Nobody else is offering any cash either.

The only person who is prepared to put his money where his mouth is, once again, is John Fenty.

Critic John Fenty all you like, but there isn't another person amongst us that has the wealth, the bottle or the nads to invest huge amounts of cash. Cash that is that you are never likely to ever see again as Football Clubs are bottom less hollows where your money disappears never to be seen again.

I say thank you very much John Fenty for your continued support. I really don't know how you remain so committed and motivated for the club when there are so many people that are happy to hide behind their keyboards whilst knocking you. You are a bloody saint. A remarkable person and you must be the most avid supporter of Grimsby Town out of all of us. We are lucky to have you John. I know that the likes of Kettering, Darlington, Luton, Portsmouth and all of the others would have been delighted to have somebody like you on board, somebody prepared keep throwing in his hard earned cash.

VOTE YES IF YOU ARE TRUST MEMBER. I AM AND I AM VOTING YES
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February 15, 2012, 11:21pm
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I really don't know why we bother with a Supporters Trust......it has missed an opportunity for something in return. Pure short-termism.



How do you figure that? The member's votes haven't been cast, let alone counted yet. They could still say no and the trust could negotiate further. Cart before the horse sir?

Anyone who wants to vote why not join up? £10 to say yes or no. Cheap at the price.


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February 15, 2012, 11:26pm
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Skeggy, and why do we need so much cash in the first place? It all smacks of the bankers farrago again. Oh you've copulated things up. Let's give you the opportunity to do it again. No no. We don't want any more controls.

Its not a question of JF's morality. I'm sure there's no financial benefit to him. It's about track record.

It's also about supporters having a real say in how their club is run. This is a backward step. Why not disband the organisation now.
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How do you figure that? The member's votes haven't been cast, let alone counted yet. They could still say no and the trust could negotiate further. Cart before the horse sir?

Anyone who wants to vote why not join up? £10 to say yes or no. Cheap at the price.


Just going on past experience Trawler. This is the third time something like this would have happened. I would love it if 1000 new people joined up and voted no. I can't see it happening though. No one outside the Trust seems to get it and the majority in the Trust seem to want to roll over each time.

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