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Quoted from LeightonMariner

There's reasonable argument and then there's speculative bo11ocks, guess where I think yours sits?  Despite my thoughts on JF's ability to run a football club he has risked his money so some credit is due.  However up until around mid-november there wasn't any obvious improvement and he was making it clear that enough was enough.  Then we start to show a bit of promise and he changes tac to not wanting to support further while.control lay outside the boardroom.  Let's just pause for a moment and consider who must have played a part in sanctioning a share purchase transaction that started that particular chain of events?

Move on now to the trusts decision to pass on voting rights for a number of shares in exchange for JF not selling the family heirlooms.  Good decision by the Trust board IMO, a decision that can be reversed if necessary.  Now comes a more important decision, whether to take the opportunity to have a real say in the club or to simply posture.

How about this, the Trust sells enough shares to JF for £200k so that he has a controlling interest while not exposing himself to having to offer on all of the other shares.  In exchange the Trust receive a place on the board and immediately loan the £200k to the club and insist that this becomes the minimum 'investment' for existing directors.  If the other two don't like it then give them their loans back and send them away, I really don't see what they offer.

The club has a serious asset in Liam Hearn that can fund the medium term future, along with realistic budgeting of the club.  JF shouldn't need to keep dipping into his pockets.  The club simply has to become self sufficient and if they choose to use their influence now, the Trust can play a vital role in facilitating that.

That is all.

You can dismiss my speculation as bo11ocks if you wish, it is based on my experience of the way that Fenty has run the club (into the ground) over the last few years.  I think you dismiuss it because it doesn't fit in with your view of the world.

While we are talking about speculation. . . . .you say that the trust can play a major role in facilitating self-sufficiency. . . . but you don't say how this may be achieved.  What do you base this on?  Is it speculative bo11ocks?  You talk about ousting board members. . . . how is this going to happen?  Is it speculative bo11ocks?

ALL football chairman dip into their pockets, that is the nature of the position, no one has put a gun to his head and told him to run the club, he clearly wanted to do it. . . . and if he wanted to do it in a half-ar$ed way then that is his responsibility.  The way that you and others paint Fenty to be some kind of benevolent sugar daddy rather than a moderately successful businessman who fancied fulfilling his (and many people's) dream of owning a football club is part of his skill as a businessman.

Fenty will milk the good will of the supporters trust for all it is worth, all of the finanacial side of things are known to him alone, he does the deals etc and the first thing he does is holds the trust to ransom threatening to sell our best valued player when clearly the consensus would be that selling hearn would be foolish in the short term both in footballing terms and business terms.  This sets one hell of a precident!

Basically, Fenty gets to play the game of being a football chairman, enjoying all of the privelages, status, kudos that this gives him, yet the supporters end up footing more of the bill!

Fenty for all of his faults (and as a football chairman they are clearly many) is one sharp operator when it comes to business.  My specualtion that Town will slump when he gets full control of the club again is based on our previous performance when he has been chairman.  I will accept it is "bo11ocks" if it turns out to be. . . . Unfortunately, I think it will turn out exactly as predicted.

Please re-post this if after 3 months of Fenty returning as chairman we have not slumped. . . . mark my words. . . . That is all!

Quoted from 1054

You can dismiss my speculation as bo11ocks if you wish, it is based on my experience of the way that Fenty has run the club (into the ground) over the last few years.  I think you dismiuss it because it doesn't fit in with your view of the world.

While we are talking about speculation. . . . .you say that the trust can play a major role in facilitating self-sufficiency. . . . but you don't say how this may be achieved.  What do you base this on?  Is it speculative bo11ocks?  You talk about ousting board members. . . . how is this going to happen?  Is it speculative bo11ocks?

ALL football chairman dip into their pockets, that is the nature of the position, no one has put a gun to his head and told him to run the club, he clearly wanted to do it. . . . and if he wanted to do it in a half-ar$ed way then that is his responsibility.  The way that you and others paint Fenty to be some kind of benevolent sugar daddy rather than a moderately successful businessman who fancied fulfilling his (and many people's) dream of owning a football club is part of his skill as a businessman.

Fenty will milk the good will of the supporters trust for all it is worth, all of the finanacial side of things are known to him alone, he does the deals etc and the first thing he does is holds the trust to ransom threatening to sell our best valued player when clearly the consensus would be that selling hearn would be foolish in the short term both in footballing terms and business terms.  This sets one hell of a precident!

Basically, Fenty gets to play the game of being a football chairman, enjoying all of the privelages, status, kudos that this gives him, yet the supporters end up footing more of the bill!

Fenty for all of his faults (and as a football chairman they are clearly many) is one sharp operator when it comes to business.  My specualtion that Town will slump when he gets full control of the club again is based on our previous performance when he has been chairman.  I will accept it is "bo11ocks" if it turns out to be. . . . Unfortunately, I think it will turn out exactly as predicted.

Please re-post this if after 3 months of Fenty returning as chairman we have not slumped. . . . mark my words. . . . That is all!

Oops, clumsy me.  Looks like I trampled all over somebodys ego.  My apologies for that, hope I haven't spoilt your day.

Quoted from LeightonMariner

Oops, clumsy me.  Looks like I trampled all over somebodys ego.  My apologies for that, hope I haven't spoilt your day.

Not really, I think I have a little bit more Ego-strength than you give me credit for.  I have robustly challenged your post and as far as I can see you have no reply.  If you wish to engage in the discussion (and this is a discussion forum after all) please feel free.  Please don't be concerned about any impact you feel you may have on my mental state, you are irrelevant to me (as I am sure you are to many people)

. . . . and for a 'man' who lists his second favourite hobby as masturbating, i would be more concernd for your fragile Ego than mine. . . . Now get your Super-ego to get hold of your Id and leave your Ego alone.

need a tissue?

Quoted from 1054

Not really, I think I have a little bit more Ego-strength than you give me credit for.  I have robustly challenged your post and as far as I can see you have no reply.  If you wish to engage in the discussion (and this is a discussion forum after all) please feel free.  Please don't be concerned about any impact you feel you may have on my mental state, you are irrelevant to me (as I am sure you are to many people)

*laughter*  Have a word with yourself......seriously.

Quoted from 1054

. . . . and for a 'man' who lists his second favourite hobby as masturbating, i would be more concernd for your fragile Ego than mine. . . . Now get your Super-ego to get hold of your Id and leave your Ego alone.

need a tissue?

Actually it's my third favourite hobby.  Your anger should lead you to working out my second favourite.

Another failure to respond to the point I have made. . . . . Two words. . . . YOUR SIGNATURE

Quoted from LeightonMariner

Actually it's my third favourite hobby.  Your anger should lead you to working out my second favourite.

I can categorically state that I am not feeling anger, am sat at my desk at work, on a break, chatting to my colleagues and tapping soem stuff out on the Fishy (with someone incapable of stringing an argument together)  I have no interest in what your other hobby is, like I said, you are irrelevant to me (and many others, I  would wildly speculate!!!!!!!!!!!)

Quoted from 1054

I can categorically state that I am not feeling anger, am sat at my desk at work, on a break, chatting to my colleagues and tapping soem stuff out on the Fishy (with someone incapable of stringing an argument together)  I have no interest in what your other hobby is, like I said, you are irrelevant to me (and many others, I  would wildly speculate!!!!!!!!!!!)

Sorry about the delayed response, I had to go and sanitize 'grill parking 1'.
Toilets are next.

Anyway, beware the voices "kill LeightonMariner".

Quoted from 1054

I can categorically state that I am not feeling anger, am sat at my desk at work, on a break, chatting to my colleagues and tapping soem stuff out on the Fishy (with someone incapable of stringing an argument together)  I have no interest in what your other hobby is, like I said, you are irrelevant to me (and many others, I  would wildly speculate!!!!!!!!!!!)

I think you failed to read his post (173) about JF, pretty much spot on.