Message from John Fenty

Errr. my username - he didn't actually do that. In fact i've never owned a hamster. Shall i change it?

Quoted from 1600

Fans have always argued.

If you think arguing is a sign of undermining the forum, I'd suggest the precise opposite.

A sign of any strong democracy is one where everyone is allowed their view(within reason) whether people agree or not.

Not one where people get censored, told to shut up or can't say what they want for fear of majority rule.

Agree with you totally - hence the use of libellous OR aggressive and controlling - as you say everyone should be allowed their say (within reason)

Dear Mr Fenty,

I have been asked to look at this thread by some friends who were concerned about the fact that the ex-chairman of a once great football club has once again made a complete plonker of himself (in their opinion of course) in his dealing with the media (whether this be the local newspaper, the official website or a fans forum). Firstly they mentioned the fact that, they believed, your dealings with the local radio station(s) damaged the public impression of the football club, further more your reluctance to offer a contract to Russell Slade damaged the financial impression of the football club, this is however conjecture as it is not possible to prove that with Mr Slade in charge GTFC would have remained in the football league.
From here you appointed Mike Newell…need I say more?
You then promoted Neil Woods, who I think it is fair to say, was seen as a fans favourite from his playing days by most supporters, to first team manager, stating that he would have the full support of the board and that you believed he had moved the club into the 21st century (paraphrasing I admit, but all said I believe, if not I apologise and will remove), then as we sat a few points off the playoffs in our first season in the conference, you sacked him and appointed “Noddy and Big Ears” who lost most of the remaining games and seemed to take the club backwards in the latter part of that season. But then they did need to bed get to know the players etc etc so that wasn’t a problem. This season “Noddy and Big Ears” have elevated GTFC to the lofty heights of…oh 17th in that same division.
You were pivotal in the appointment of Mike Parker to the board and then, for reasons which I am not fully informed, the pair of you had a falling out, resulting in Mr Parker handing his shares to GTST and you resigning as chairman. Since which, it would appear, you have decided that, aside from the ailing football club, the most productive thing for the image of GTFC plc would be to send a letter to a fans forum threatening legal  action if the opinions which you don’t like are not removed. Now I understand you have every right to ask for libellous and/or offensive things written about you in the public domain to be removed I would like to pose the following questions to you

If what was said was indeed false, what are your intentions for the “benign loans?”

If you have “written them off in your head” why not write them off officially?

If as mentioned above that post was false and did show the club in a negative light, what image, in your opinion, does your letter show the club in?

The club have been operating to a deficit for the last X (I don’t know how many, but it’s a lot) number of years; on what planet does this constitute “working in the best interest of the football club?” sure nobody in their right mind would continually run a business that way and expect it to go well?

The above question is my…errr…sorry….my friends…main gripe Mr Fenty, YOU decided to run this club in a way that makes a loss, YOU increased the playing budget, sacked a manager a season and appointed Mike Newell, and then YOU paid for it (literally) and, whilst claiming the loans to be benign, left them on the clubs financial report.

I do hope nothing within this rant is incorrect, if so I will be happy to correct and/or remove the offending comments. However I do believe you are acting like a petulant child
I think it would help not only your position with the fans but the image of the football club if you come out and actually defend your position, by stating what in the offending posts was incorrect, what was not and what the direction is for this once great club. If nothing happens in the near future this town will be talking about the time they used to have a football club and nobody wants that…well except the housing developers waiting to buy BP…from whichever institution calls in their loans first!

Regards

Mr ...actually if you want my name ask Rob to get my IP address

From SomeoneElse

From here you appointed Mike Newell---need I say more?

Yes how about with the moral support of almost everyone in the Town barring a select few. just for fairness mind

Quoted from SomeoneElse

Dear Mr Fenty,

I have been asked to look at this thread by some friends who were concerned about the fact that the ex-chairman of a once great football club has once again made a complete plonker of himself (in their opinion of course) in his dealing with the media (whether this be the local newspaper, the official website or a fans forum). Firstly they mentioned the fact that, they believed, your dealings with the local radio station(s) damaged the public impression of the football club, further more your reluctance to offer a contract to Russell Slade damaged the financial impression of the football club, this is however conjecture as it is not possible to prove that with Mr Slade in charge GTFC would have remained in the football league.
From here you appointed Mike Newell…need I say more?
You then promoted Neil Woods, who I think it is fair to say, was seen as a fans favourite from his playing days by most supporters, to first team manager, stating that he would have the full support of the board and that you believed he had moved the club into the 21st century (paraphrasing I admit, but all said I believe, if not I apologise and will remove), then as we sat a few points off the playoffs in our first season in the conference, you sacked him and appointed “Noddy and Big Ears” who lost most of the remaining games and seemed to take the club backwards in the latter part of that season. But then they did need to bed get to know the players etc etc so that wasn’t a problem. This season “Noddy and Big Ears” have elevated GTFC to the lofty heights of…oh 17th in that same division.
You were pivotal in the appointment of Mike Parker to the board and then, for reasons which I am not fully informed, the pair of you had a falling out, resulting in Mr Parker handing his shares to GTST and you resigning as chairman. Since which, it would appear, you have decided that, aside from the ailing football club, the most productive thing for the image of GTFC plc would be to send a letter to a fans forum threatening legal  action if the opinions which you don’t like are not removed. Now I understand you have every right to ask for libellous and/or offensive things written about you in the public domain to be removed I would like to pose the following questions to you

If what was said was indeed false, what are your intentions for the “benign loans?”

If you have “written them off in your head” why not write them off officially?

If as mentioned above that post was false and did show the club in a negative light, what image, in your opinion, does your letter show the club in?

The club have been operating to a deficit for the last X (I don’t know how many, but it’s a lot) number of years; on what planet does this constitute “working in the best interest of the football club?” sure nobody in their right mind would continually run a business that way and expect it to go well?

The above question is my…errr…sorry….my friends…main gripe Mr Fenty, YOU decided to run this club in a way that makes a loss, YOU increased the playing budget, sacked a manager a season and appointed Mike Newell, and then YOU paid for it (literally) and, whilst claiming the loans to be benign, left them on the clubs financial report.

I do hope nothing within this rant is incorrect, if so I will be happy to correct and/or remove the offending comments. However I do believe you are acting like a petulant child
I think it would help not only your position with the fans but the image of the football club if you come out and actually defend your position, by stating what in the offending posts was incorrect, what was not and what the direction is for this once great club. If nothing happens in the near future this town will be talking about the time they used to have a football club and nobody wants that…well except the housing developers waiting to buy BP…from whichever institution calls in their loans first!

Regards

Mr ...actually if you want my name ask Rob to get my IP address

Surely a more constructive approach would be to post this directly to JF at BP or better still arrange an appointment with him and discuss these points , with a witness of course.

Quoted from Garth

From SomeoneElse

From here you appointed Mike Newell---need I say more?

Yes how about with the moral support of almost everyone in the Town barring a select few. just for fairness mind

Not quite true. Once appointed some of us looked at his stand-out days with Luton and thought..hmmm, impressive. He was hand picked though, when perhaps the fans would have liked to have seen a larger list of candidates to pick from? I know I did.  Almost immediately the alarm bells started with negative opinions on him from fans of former clubs.
Yes, we were taken in, but most of us didn't go digging into his past to find out what a nightmare the man was because we are just that, fans. That sort of research is left down to a football clubs chairman/board.
It's blatantly obvious who was to blame for the APPOINTMENT of Newell, and to make the fans guilty by association due to the fact that we casually cherry picked some of his history is quite wrong imo.  

Quoted from rancido

Surely a more constructive approach would be to post this directly to JF at BP or better still arrange an appointment with him and discuss these points , with a witness of course.

whys that then hes clearly monitering the fishy

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

whys that then hes clearly monitering the fishy

But why use a third party if you want the answer to pertinent questions ? Is using the Fishy just a way of getting attention to your questions knowing that JF will not personally log on here to answer it. Monitoring this site is not the same thing as actively engaging in it.
For what it's worth I think a lot of these key-board warriors haven't the balls to directly ask JF to his face about their gripes but like to shout  " foul " when he challenges some of the hysterical drivel that is posted about his supposed financial intentions for the club .

Quoted from rancido

But why use a third party if you want the answer to pertinent questions ? Is using the Fishy just a way of getting attention to your questions knowing that JF will not personally log on here to answer it. Monitoring this site is not the same thing as actively engaging in it.
For what it's worth I think a lot of these key-board warriors haven't the balls to directly ask JF to his face about their gripes but like to shout  " foul " when he challenges some of the hysterical drivel that is posted about his supposed financial intentions for the club .

perhaps the best thing would be to go on radio hull and declare his intentions regarding lots of issues,i doubt he will cos burnsy tears him apart normally

Quoted from SomeoneElse

Dear Mr Fenty,

I have been asked to look at this thread by some friends who were concerned about the fact that the ex-chairman of a once great football club has once again made a complete plonker of himself (in their opinion of course) in his dealing with the media (whether this be the local newspaper, the official website or a fans forum). Firstly they mentioned the fact that, they believed, your dealings with the local radio station(s) damaged the public impression of the football club, further more your reluctance to offer a contract to Russell Slade damaged the financial impression of the football club, this is however conjecture as it is not possible to prove that with Mr Slade in charge GTFC would have remained in the football league.
From here you appointed Mike Newell…need I say more?
You then promoted Neil Woods, who I think it is fair to say, was seen as a fans favourite from his playing days by most supporters, to first team manager, stating that he would have the full support of the board and that you believed he had moved the club into the 21st century (paraphrasing I admit, but all said I believe, if not I apologise and will remove), then as we sat a few points off the playoffs in our first season in the conference, you sacked him and appointed “Noddy and Big Ears” who lost most of the remaining games and seemed to take the club backwards in the latter part of that season. But then they did need to bed get to know the players etc etc so that wasn’t a problem. This season “Noddy and Big Ears” have elevated GTFC to the lofty heights of…oh 17th in that same division.
You were pivotal in the appointment of Mike Parker to the board and then, for reasons which I am not fully informed, the pair of you had a falling out, resulting in Mr Parker handing his shares to GTST and you resigning as chairman. Since which, it would appear, you have decided that, aside from the ailing football club, the most productive thing for the image of GTFC plc would be to send a letter to a fans forum threatening legal  action if the opinions which you don’t like are not removed. Now I understand you have every right to ask for libellous and/or offensive things written about you in the public domain to be removed I would like to pose the following questions to you

If what was said was indeed false, what are your intentions for the “benign loans?”

If you have “written them off in your head” why not write them off officially?

If as mentioned above that post was false and did show the club in a negative light, what image, in your opinion, does your letter show the club in?

The club have been operating to a deficit for the last X (I don’t know how many, but it’s a lot) number of years; on what planet does this constitute “working in the best interest of the football club?” sure nobody in their right mind would continually run a business that way and expect it to go well?

The above question is my…errr…sorry….my friends…main gripe Mr Fenty, YOU decided to run this club in a way that makes a loss, YOU increased the playing budget, sacked a manager a season and appointed Mike Newell, and then YOU paid for it (literally) and, whilst claiming the loans to be benign, left them on the clubs financial report.

I do hope nothing within this rant is incorrect, if so I will be happy to correct and/or remove the offending comments. However I do believe you are acting like a petulant child
I think it would help not only your position with the fans but the image of the football club if you come out and actually defend your position, by stating what in the offending posts was incorrect, what was not and what the direction is for this once great club. If nothing happens in the near future this town will be talking about the time they used to have a football club and nobody wants that…well except the housing developers waiting to buy BP…from whichever institution calls in their loans first!

Regards

Mr ...actually if you want my name ask Rob to get my IP address

Well said that man.

Ive just re-read the original "Fenty" letter and still cannot believe its genuine.

Nobody would be so daft surely?