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Henryscat
November 5, 2011, 10:34pm
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I think a lot of people have jumped to conclusions here. I've no doubt I'll get shouted down but I am typing this from neither a pro nor an anti fenty viewpoint. I just think people need to be more objective and look at these few points.

Firstly, the original email was from John to Rob, it was not an open letter to users of the fishy. The fact that Rob chose to copy and paste the email rather than summarise it in a post was Rob's decision and isn't fenty "throwing his toys out" as mentioned earlier in this thread.

Secondly, I think a lot of you have confused criticism (and even abuse) with liable/slander. John has admitted that things haven't been rosy (a large understatement IMO) and doesn't object to this. He objects to scurrilous rumours and untruths that have been posted. For instance it would be quite acceptable to say "fenty is a rich man with a pretty daughter who's tenure as chairman coincided with the club's demise to non-league football" all of these can be backed up with evidence. You can't however say something like (and I hasten to add I'm using this as an example) "John is the franchisee of the McDonalds outside BP and thus keeps the catering inside BP low-rate" this cannot be backed up by any form of evidence.

Lastly, the mods have been asked to remove libelous messages, this does not get rid of our freedom of speech but merely keeps Rob from being sued and this forum and website being shut down.

Sorry to rant on but I think a lot of you need to look at things objectively before spouting off.


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November 5, 2011, 10:38pm

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Is it slander to say fenty is the worst chairman in our history and im told he doesnt like cats errrrmmm


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Is it slander to say fenty is the worst chairman in our history


You'd have to back that up with some evidence. I would suggest league placings would be a good place to start.

But it would depend on what else one would constitute being a "good" chairman is


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I think a lot of people have jumped to conclusions here. I've no doubt I'll get shouted down but I am typing this from neither a pro nor an anti fenty viewpoint. I just think people need to be more objective and look at these few points.

Firstly, the original email was from John to Rob, it was not an open letter to users of the fishy. The fact that Rob chose to copy and paste the email rather than summarise it in a post was Rob's decision and isn't fenty "throwing his toys out" as mentioned earlier in this thread.

Secondly, I think a lot of you have confused criticism (and even abuse) with liable/slander. John has admitted that things haven't been rosy (a large understatement IMO) and doesn't object to this. He objects to scurrilous rumours and untruths that have been posted. For instance it would be quite acceptable to say "fenty is a rich man with a pretty daughter who's tenure as chairman coincided with the club's demise to non-league football" all of these can be backed up with evidence. You can't however say something like (and I hasten to add I'm using this as an example) "John is the franchisee of the McDonalds outside BP and thus keeps the catering inside BP low-rate" this cannot be backed up by any form of evidence.

Lastly, the mods have been asked to remove libelous messages, this does not get rid of our freedom of speech but merely keeps Rob from being sued and this forum and website being shut down.

Sorry to rant on but I think a lot of you need to look at things objectively before spouting off.


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November 5, 2011, 10:52pm
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How many shareholders in a business in the real world would allow the CEO, MD, Chairman to behave in the way John Fenty has?

Awful record on recruitment, wasted money all over the place & PR that can only be compared to that of Gerald Ratner.

John, stay away from all forms of media, including messageboards. That way you may be able to concentrate on finding a rudder to steer OUR battered wreck of a club back into calmer waters.


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[quote=93]How many shareholders in a business in the real world would allow the CEO, MD, Chairman to behave in the way John Fenty has?

Awful record on recruitment, wasted money all over the place & PR that can only be compared to that of Gerald Ratner.

John, stay away from all forms of media, including messageboards. That way you may be able to concentrate on finding a rudder to steer OUR battered wreck of a club back into calmer waters.
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   Im not a good swimmer but are you sort of saying fenty moored the boat on a sandbank and damaged it badly


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November 5, 2011, 11:04pm

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ERRR SO IS THIS THE END OF twit OF THE WEEK?????????
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Im so glad im a cat and cos the end of free speech doesnt
Effect me and probably the end of the fishy as we know it meeeeoowww


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Im so glad im a cat and cos the end of free speech doesnt
Effect me and probably the end of the fishy as we know it meeeeoowww


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November 5, 2011, 11:10pm

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Regards the statement, I have always thought we were lucky to have Fenty, he has though proved useless at choosing a manager, some truly awful decisions.

However I do think his statement is completely OTT, are we sure it's from him, was he sober when he wrote it?  The latter is a serious question.  I ask as the spelling is truly awful.  As a man in power etc I cannot believe more care is not taken,  I also can't believe he does not get better advice than to write communications like this.  

Never mind at least in future criticism, if its allowed, may be more constructive!!!
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