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Quagmire
November 15, 2011, 12:41pm Report to Moderator

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I never cease to be amazed by how some on here think that cash cash cash is the answer and that we should all be so grateful to JF for providing the club with the cash necessary to succeed!

It is the management of cash that matters and not the amount.

Over the last few years Fenty has made sure that GTFC is now wholly reliant on him and his benign loans.  If you believe what has been put forward in the media recently the club cannot survive without him and his cash.  How is this good for GTFC?  How has GTFC been allowed to arrive at a position of such dependancy?

It is a situation created by JF and the way he has chosen to run the club, which involved him ploughing his money in rather than working to create a club that was better able to to sustain itself.

We are now where we are and whatever you may say about his motives, generosity or intent to do good, he has left GTFC in an incredibly perilous position with both hands tied behind its back and held firmly by JF.

He has gambled with the future of the club and he has lost.  We're a conference side which he, in public, and his brother, on here, have suggested may not survive without his cash after Christmas.  Brilliant. Well done.  


Superb post.
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rather than working to create a club that was better able to to sustain itself.


Funny, I seem to remember him working his ar$e off to get a new stadium because his main ambition was to make us sustainable. He received f**k all support from the council and received accusations from the fans of wanting a pointless Fenty Dome.
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Funny, I seem to remember him working his ar$e off to get a new stadium because his main ambition was to make us sustainable. He received f**k all support from the council and received accusations from the fans of wanting a pointless Fenty Dome.


And what's the point of a 5 Star Stadium when you've got a derelict team to put in it. Cardiff Mariner has hit the nail on the head - JF has gambled (albeit with his own money) on throwing cash around to solve the problem.

No amount of cash can eliminate the malaise that has been created over the last 8 years. What's been needed before - and even more so now - is a sustainable business plan that the club can afford to follow. Sooner or later the cash will dry up - whether it be Fenty's, Parker's or the Fairy Godmothers and GTFC will have to find its' business feet.
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Funny, I seem to remember him working his ar$e off to get a new stadium because his main ambition was to make us sustainable. He received f**k all support from the council and received accusations from the fans of wanting a pointless Fenty Dome.


Went well for him, a misguided and fruitless waste of money. Maybe if the club had concentrated the money spent on Great Coates on footballing matters we would still be a league club, instead of making restrictive and drastic cost cutting decisions that saved thousands and cost the club millions.


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I never cease to be amazed by how some on here think that cash cash cash is the answer and that we should all be so grateful to JF for providing the club with the cash necessary to succeed!

It is the management of cash that matters and not the amount.

Over the last few years Fenty has made sure that GTFC is now wholly reliant on him and his benign loans.  If you believe what has been put forward in the media recently the club cannot survive without him and his cash.  How is this good for GTFC?  How has GTFC been allowed to arrive at a position of such dependancy?

It is a situation created by JF and the way he has chosen to run the club, which involved him ploughing his money in rather than working to create a club that was better able to to sustain itself.

We are now where we are and whatever you may say about his motives, generosity or intent to do good, he has left GTFC in an incredibly perilous position with both hands tied behind its back and held firmly by JF.

He has gambled with the future of the club and he has lost.  We're a conference side which he, in public, and his brother, on here, have suggested may not survive without his cash after Christmas.  Brilliant. Well done.  


Great post


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Went well for him, a misguided and fruitless waste of money. Maybe if the club had concentrated the money spent on Great Coates on footballing matters we would still be a league club, instead of making restrictive and drastic cost cutting decisions that saved thousands and cost the club millions.


i bet you would not have said that 8 years ago
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Went well for him, a misguided and fruitless waste of money. Maybe if the club had concentrated the money spent on Great Coates on footballing matters we would still be a league club, instead of making restrictive and drastic cost cutting decisions that saved thousands and cost the club millions.



The prospect of a new ground was a realistic approach to the financial problems that we faced ie a non dependancy on purely football based income. Don't forget this idea had been mentioned for a while before JF got involved. The Council wanted it but as per normal there was no concrete financial support.Unfortunately the eventual timing was wrong.This was coupled with the objections from the Great Coates residents who wanted to preserve their pristine picturesque village from masses of rampaging football hooligans and English Nature ? who were concerned that birds that had flown 2,000 miles to winter here were not capable of flying a further mile to another open field.


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The prospect of a new ground was a realistic approach to the financial problems that we faced ie a non dependancy on purely football based income. Don't forget this idea had been mentioned for a while before JF got involved. The Council wanted it but as per normal there was no concrete financial support.Unfortunately the eventual timing was wrong.This was coupled with the objections from the Great Coates residents who wanted to preserve their pristine picturesque village from masses of rampaging football hooligans and English Nature ? who were concerned that birds that had flown 2,000 miles to winter here were not capable of flying a further mile to another open field.


Not to mention they would've lost that wonderful view of the factories and that nice big chimney.
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I've never loved fenty nor hated him, never have i slagged him off but what i've just read is sad. I do think he tried his utmost best with the 'new stadium' and always had the clubs intentions at heart etc.. But this 'rant' from him isn't good.
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