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I don't understand his appointment at all if he can't bring in players through his network, that's surely the boon of having a certain manager, their well established network with players?
I think the owners have been incredibly naive at what going down means and have taken this bloke on a chance. I'd rather us have spent on the cowleys for example as they have a pedigree on making successful teams, aka Lincoln. Lincoln are thriving, new stadium expansion, community buy in, etc...
I’m not sure we’re in a position to recruit a manager who has a network to bring in as we’re not flush and in the bottom 5 of the EFL, why would anyone decent come here? Plus we have a head of recruitment to spot talent 🤷♂️ Whilst I get the point about what the Cowley’s did at Lincoln but that’s a different scenario. |
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| jamesgtfc |
| February 10, 2024, 11:33pm |
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I suspect he’s not signed players he’s worked with before is due to the fact we’re in a relegation battle, he said as much on Thursday when asked about Kirk.
As a manager he’s only managed 1 club so I wouldn’t expect him to have that big a network of players to fall back on, a lot of his Crewe side are playing at a higher level aren’t they?
I don’t get your point about trust to be honest, the only context where you could use trust as a factor is that the players don’t trust what he’s asking them to do is the right thing.
My point on trust is that he needs someone he can truly trust within his coaching team. As for former players, he was in the Crewe academy set-up for some time before taking on the first team role. Whilst a lot might be playing higher, a lot won't be. I thought he would bring in a couple of players who understood his methods to help bring the existing players along. |
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| HertsGTFC |
| February 10, 2024, 11:36pm |
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My point on trust is that he needs someone he can truly trust within his coaching team. As for former players, he was in the Crewe academy set-up for some time before taking on the first team role. Whilst a lot might be playing higher, a lot won't be. I thought he would bring in a couple of players who understood his methods to help bring the existing players along.
Why can’t he trust Ben & Shaun? |
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| toontown |
| February 10, 2024, 11:39pm |
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Not sure why this post has got so many crosses as they were, on today’s performance, clearly no better and in respect of the left back he doesn’t even have the same quality delivery as Glennon. Yes he had a couple of good runs first half but was guilty of allowing his opponent get behind him on several occasions.
Smith did ok but nothing outstanding and is another who lacks height and physicality and still struggling to understand how either he or Mullarkey are an improvement on Efete. Stockport had 3 guys at least 6 ft 3 ins and look threatening every set piece we literally have no one who is that strong aerially.
As for playing out from the back this just doesn’t make sense at BP as soon as there is one error the abuse and jeers start and players are torn between pleasing the fans or DA, neither as it happens. Plus for this to work you have to have a midfield that wants the ball and is comfortable to receive it whilst under pressure. To be fair to Thompson he did look for the ball but reminded me of the guy we got from Preston(Welch?) completely unfit and passed his sell by date the bloke looked incapable of getting into a jog never mind a sprint. Holohan and Clifton just not good enough and once again I question Clifton’s selection. Even Andrews is far more comfortable on the ball but again doesn’t get round the pitch enough.
Rose is totally isolated and our wide men have no real threat so the ball never stays for more than a few seconds in the opposition’s half.
I questioned the success of the Recruitment Manager a couple of weeks ago and not one of the January signings make me reconsider my opinion that he has added nothing of value to the club.
We are in one hell of a mess and like many I’m sick and tired of going to BP to see utter garbage performances and players.
Re: the full backs they look to be an improvement simply by not standing out as exceptionally bad defenders. They looked fairly anonymous league 2 full backs, but yes that is an improvement on the 2 who were taking it in turns to put in cataclysmically bad defensive performances. Agree that Glennon offers more going forward tho. But not mullarkey he is awful at the back and flatters to decieve offensively |
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| chaos33 |
| February 11, 2024, 12:11am |
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The two current centre backs have been consistently dreadful.
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| WembleyDouble |
| February 11, 2024, 12:30am |
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The biggest challenge between now and the summer is that the spine of our team is dreadful, or at best average (GK, 2 CB’s, 2 or maybe all 3 CM’s). Combine that with the fact they are being asked to play a style of play only the very top teams achieve with any great success, for me explains why we have gone backwards since Artell took charge.
Both CB’s looked like rabbits in headlights every time they got the ball to feet, and had to pick a pass to midfielder, who rarely, if ever showed for them. On top of that they had a very good Stockport teams frontline ready to pounce on any mistake they made, of which there inevitably was a few because either as a unit, or individually they aren’t good enough to do what they are being asked, or well drilled enough to play that way. Probably a mixture of the two.
How the hell we fix that with this group I don’t know. But something needs to change rapidly. These next 2 games are massive and we need to pick up some points and show some serious progress and that we have it in our locker to pick up enough points to keep us safe by May, and that we are learning from our frequent mistakes of gifting teams easy goals.
If we don’t get the points or show progress of fixing errors this week, for me Artell has to go. This is not a time for sentiment or experiment of style. Although today was a tough game and I didn’t expect anything from it the same errors are being repeated too often. We need hard evidence of progress quickly, ideally via the medium of points or we are in deep trouble.
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| Terry duckworth |
| February 11, 2024, 1:51am |
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We wasn’t very good today but.will people hold their fire
For goodness sake yes we was excrement but this is the mighty mariners
We will bounce back as always ❤️
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| fishcake63 |
| February 11, 2024, 7:14am |
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The two current centre backs have been consistently dreadful.
Said it all along maher cant or doesn't want to put his head in where it hurts & for a lge 2 cb it's criminal & artell is as much to blame as hurst was in keeping him in team |
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| pontoonlew |
| February 11, 2024, 7:30am |
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Said it all along maher cant or doesn't want to put his head in where it hurts & for a lge 2 cb it's criminal & artell is as much to blame as hurst was in keeping him in team
In fairness Artell took him out the team at the first opportunity when Tharne came in and I imagine he will again when he’s fit |
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| Mappers |
| February 11, 2024, 7:39am |
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I'm also asking myself why he hasn't signed a couple of players he's worked with previously. I'm not sure that he can trust anyone, his coaching staff were forced upon him and all of our signings appear to have been players the Head of Recruitment had been monitoring for a while.
Jack Lester wanted Alan Buckley to come be his assistant at Chesterfield. Buckley turned it down but told him that his assistant manager had to be somebody that he could trust implicitly as many assistant managers want the managers job.
I know Crewe are doing well and all . But if Artell was so highly thought of within the game , from players he's worked with before and had success with previously he would have pulled off the Charlie Kirk signing wouldn't he ? Thought it was telling he went back to Crewe tbh. |
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